Graphics Tablets Help (new guy)

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Nv8r Blak, Feb 12, 2004.

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    Nv8r Blak Guest

    Wassup people... just wondering if anyone had any experience with or advise
    on getting a graphics tablet. I'm looking at the Graphite 3 from Wacom but
    any suggestions or usfull info before I put down my hard earned $100 bucks
    (my allowance from my wife) would be helpfull. And if you know of another
    tablet just as good or better for around $100 let me know. I only have that
    much for now untill I land the big graphic design contract and can shell out
    $300 for a new toy ( or I do some extra chores and my wife pays me more
    allowance). Thanks
     
    Nv8r Blak, Feb 12, 2004
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    Todd Felmly Guest

    You may want to check on ebay for a Medion tablet. I bought one and it is
    great. It is 9"x12" and comes with the pen and a mouse. You can get one
    there for under $125.00. These were being sold at the grocery chain Aldi's
    for $39.00 a few months ago but sold out in like a day. Medion is a German
    computer company like Dell is in the US.

    Todd
     
    Todd Felmly, Feb 12, 2004
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    Tin Ear Guest

    I saved a little longer and got the Wacom Intuos 6x8 and love it. I would
    have liked the 9x12, but just could not justify the added cost. The 6x8 size
    is convenient. I use mine primarily while working on retouching scanned
    photos, but I've come to like it as a general pointing device with most of
    the Creative Suite. What I like is the pressure sensitivity response of the
    Intuos vs the Graphire.
     
    Tin Ear, Feb 12, 2004
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    D McCallum Guest

    If you get a waccom you'll never go back. I have the waccom 3 , unless
    you're actually doing large autocad designs , this is all you'll need as the
    programmable bar of the higher priced ones will be unused.
     
    D McCallum, Feb 12, 2004
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    jonalouvjona Guest

    There are other companies making nice tablets. But no one ever reviews
    them. This is a damn shame.

    How can artists make a choice when Wacom monopolize the magazine
    reviews?! If there is nothing else being reviewed how can you say
    Wacom is the best?!

    Well, I will review a $50 UC-Logic tablet in a frew days (shipped out
    yesterday). The Wacom media monopoly must end now!

    P.S., I used to own 2 Wacoms Intuos but sold them cause felt they're
    weren't worth the price (good resale value though). Another reason I
    sold the Wacom is because I tried a UC-Logic tablet for a bit and it
    felt far more responsive. So, I decided to go UC-Logic instead.

    Stay tuned for a review in a few days. I will do a fair comparison
    between UC-Logic and Wacom Intuos and possibly shatter a long standing
    myth!.
     
    jonalouvjona, Feb 13, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    Quite easily. The reason you don't see reviews of the other tablets is
    because there really isn't any comparison and one review from someone
    who displays such a bias against Wacom won't change anything I'm
    afraid.
     
    Hecate, Feb 14, 2004
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    jonalouvjona Guest

    It's small minded (and uneducated, by your use of circular reasoning)
    people like you that has caused consumers to suffer and corporations
    to plunder our pocketbooks and kill our troops.

    Remember, I'm offering to give a comparitive review that none of you
    can, nor can magazines. I've been waiting for others to review other
    tablets but no one is willing so I had to take the initiative.

    Choice is better. Competition is better. Monopoly hurts consumers ...
    drives up prices and stifles innovation.

    By your fear of my review, I must ask (I'm sure others are
    suspicious), do you work for Wacom? If so, what do you have to fear if
    you think Wacoms are the best?

    P.S. I've owned and used Wacom Intuos (4x5 and 6x8) tablets for 3
    years. Using a pen (vs a mouse) is nice for artwork, selections and
    touchups but I didn't feel it was worth it's $300/tablet pricetag.
     
    jonalouvjona, Feb 14, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    hahaha! That is *so* over the top it just illustrates my point about
    bias.
    Comparative reviews require objectivity. You've shown you have none.
    At last, something I can agree with.. However, competition for
    competitions sake does no one any favours. I'm not going to use
    substandard equipment just for the sake of having competition.
    I don't "fear" your review. I question your objectivity.

    Never been near a Wacom building in my life. However, just to fuel
    your conspiracy theory, I have worked for the government (the British
    one)>
    I've used, and use Wacom. I tried out an aipshit one once. It was
    crap. I've used the same Wacom tablet now for about ten years and the
    prices they charge are good value for money because of their build
    quality. And when your income depends on your equipment, not having
    to replace that equipment constantly through lack of build quality is
    a major factor.
     
    Hecate, Feb 15, 2004
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    KBob Guest

    In my experience, the Intuos tablets are far superior in both
    performance and durability. I've had a couple Graphire tablets, and
    neither lasted more than a few months. The tablet became erratic on
    one of them, and the cheapo mouse of the other one fell apart. My
    Intuos 2 has held up perfectly for 2 years now and I can find no
    faults whatever. Great pen, and the mouse is waaay better.
     
    KBob, Feb 16, 2004
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    KBob Guest

    What's more important than small differences between brands is which
    ones are fully supported by Photoshop and other graphics programs you
    may plan to use. The Wacom units have longstanding support by Adobe
    and a good track record, at least for the Intuos series.
     
    KBob, Feb 16, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    I haven't used a Graphire. Why? Because I bought the forerunner, the
    Artpad II a long time ago and it's still giving me great service and
    is solid. However, I'm pretty fed up with the serial connection and
    soon, there won't be any of those. So, I'll probably buy the A5
    graphire.
     
    Hecate, Feb 16, 2004
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    supchaka Guest

    Someone mentioned the Intuos being pressure sensitive and the Graphir
    isn't. I have the Graphire and its pressure sensitive as well. I jus
    had a hell of a time getting used to it. They are great for makin
    selections and drawing but I still don't like navigating application
    with it. I loathe touchpads and thats what it is really. The absolut
    pointer positioning only took a day or two to get used to.

    I'd recommend one to anyone who is doing any kind of serious art o
    graphics work on a PC, can't live without it

    supchak
     
    supchaka, Feb 16, 2004
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    Dr. J. Smith Guest


    So no review then? Objective or otherwise?
    Man...







    =)
     
    Dr. J. Smith, Feb 25, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    Yes. If you want an objective review all you have to do is purchase a
    copy of Digital Photo (a UK mag) where they reviewed (IIRC) 13
    different tablets. There were two recommendations for a budget award
    from people other than Wacom. They did, however point out that the
    "pointing devices were fragile" and that the "build quality left
    something to be desired". All the other awards went to Wacom.
     
    Hecate, Feb 26, 2004
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    Dr. J. Smith Guest

    HEY! You erased my smiley! We don't cotton to that kind of behaviour in
    these here parts. But...
    thanks for the input, I'm trying to swing an Intuos through a wholesaler.
    ~Doc
     
    Dr. J. Smith, Feb 26, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    Ooops, sorry :)

    Hope it helped :)
     
    Hecate, Feb 27, 2004
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    Dr. J. Smith Guest

    Well the info helped up to the "all you have to do is" statement since I'm
    not in the UK, but the critical point is my smiley is now cowering under my
    Ctrl key, a definite problem with using shortcuts, thank you very much. I
    see you keep your smileys very close to your statements, a practice I'll
    keep in mind in the future in this unsafe environment. But we digress, on to
    more important things like pixels and such.... by the way, it would probably
    take surgery to remove my tongue from my cheek, but I'm guessing you're on
    to that already...

    ~Doc
     
    Dr. J. Smith, Feb 27, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    "Tongue in cheek"? Is that a PS plug-in? ;-)

    If you want the info from the mag, give me a price point ($ will do)
    and I'll dig out the article and let you have the relevant reviews by
    mail. :)
     
    Hecate, Feb 28, 2004
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    ~Doc Guest

    Actually it is indeed! No matter how interesting of an effect you produce
    with it it won't return the result as it assumes you didn't mean it anyway.
    ~Doc

    btw// ...article not necessary =)
     
    ~Doc, Feb 28, 2004
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