Green Eye

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    Photographs of my daughter's Chesapeake Retriever often have "green
    eye". Usually, I just use the Brush and paint out the green with
    black, but wonder if there are other - better - techniques.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011
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  2. Tony,

    Do you use flash when you photograph you're daughters dog?

    If you do, then the flash reflects on the retina, and in different
    eyes, ie Human animal and so on they refflect back .

    Maybe change the angle that the light hits the subjects eye by even a
    few degrees..



    Regards


    Life is Good !!!
     
    Ritchie Valens, Sep 19, 2011
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  3. tony cooper

    Savageduck Guest

    Sure there are Tony.

    In this NG, in the thread "Red in eye whites" I spelled out a Matt
    Koskowski method of adjustment using a "Hue/Saturation" adjustment
    layer. That can be adapted to fix animal "luminous green-eye".
    The problem with painting out the green is, it removes the natural look
    of the eye. it becomes flat and dull, and it looks as if you painted
    out the green.

    Here is a version I worked a fix for, when "Stinkweed" had a similar
    problem with a leopard image she posted in alt.binaries.photos.original.

    I had to do a double fix on that, one for the pupil and one for the
    iris. Here is how that worked out.
    < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Sharon-Leopard-comp_01.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 19, 2011
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  4. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    You have to be kidding.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011
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  5. What do you mean "You have to be kidding"?
    Life is Good !!!
     
    Ritchie Valens, Sep 19, 2011
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  6. Look to the answers to 'red eye'.
     
    John J Stafford, Sep 19, 2011
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  7. And for all persons with red or green eye problems, the solution is to
    move the flash off the camera, if you can.
     
    John J Stafford, Sep 19, 2011
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  8. tony cooper

    Savageduck Guest

    That would be nice, unfortunately there are times a cure is needed
    rather than prevention.

    Personally, for the most part I avoid using the built-in flash and rely
    on my SB-800 when needed. However there are many who have no idea of
    how to even turn auto flash off. For proof I give you all those
    pointless flashes in the grandstands at night events.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 19, 2011
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  9. tony cooper

    Carrie Guest

    My first reaction was change the angle and use room light instead of
    flash, but then I realized he was asking how to fix the eyes in PS AFTER
    the pictures were taken.
    In Paint Shop Pro (I realize maybe not everyone happens to have and I
    have version 7 because I like some features like the illumination effects I
    sometimes use) they have actual eyes, for people (different colors) and
    animals. You can pick and draw a circle with the tool where you want it to
    go. Sometimes it looks natural, sometimes it doesn't.
    Don't know what I'd do with PS and this, any dogs eyes I've had to fix
    seems like I used the redeye tool. But I think I would zoom way in and
    select the eye and maybe use a layer>adjustment> solid color, and then down
    the opacity till it looked okay.
    I don't have a picture of a dog with green eyes (I think I know what he
    means) to try it on, off hand. Though I have 2 dogs I could try and get a
    pic of it with LOL (I don't use flash much, especially with animals, I like
    the softer look of room light, even at night, and can always lighten it in
    PS)
     
    Carrie, Sep 19, 2011
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  10. tony cooper

    Carrie Guest

    That came out nice. Do Leopards have brown eyes? I never noticed (never saw
    one up close like that) I would have guessed they be more green like cats.
     
    Carrie, Sep 19, 2011
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  11. tony cooper

    Carrie Guest

    Some cameras you can set the flash down lower so it doesn't wash out as
    much. My camera (Canon Rebel) has a "red eye setting" where it flashes
    several times very fast first maybe the close the pupil of the eye. I don't
    have it on though.
    Back in the pre digital days, we used to have a white cloth, like a
    handerchief and put it over the flash to cut down the light for faces or
    anything needing softer light.
     
    Carrie, Sep 19, 2011
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  12. tony cooper

    Carrie Guest

    Yeah, I keep my camera on P (program) which is still auto but not
    totally AUTO -which opens and uses the flash a lot of the time on it's own.
    As I said I don't like using flash unless I have to.
     
    Carrie, Sep 19, 2011
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  13. tony cooper

    Savageduck Guest

    ....and here is the classic dog "green-eye" fixed using adjustment layers;
    < http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/EyeFix-comp-20.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 19, 2011
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  14. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    That's a nice result. Very nice.

    I don't have the problem when photographing the dog because I'm aware
    of what causes "red eye" or "green eye", and adjust my position
    accordingly. Also, I use a diffuser.

    Where I have the problem is when the dog is just part of the scene
    with a human or two included. I'm concentrating on the humans, and
    then see those glowing green orbs in the result. It's when I don't
    notice the dog that the problem occurs.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011
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  15. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    Just to be clear about my question...it's about removing green eye in
    post, not preventing green eye. When the dog is the subject, the
    effect can be prevented. When the dog is in the background, or noses
    his way into the setting, there's no prevention possible.

    When taking family event snaps, pets often get in the scene when they
    are not planned participants. Sometimes it's a better photo by their
    presence, so we leave them in and dim the eyes.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011
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  16. tony cooper

    Savageduck Guest

    I never had a doubt of that, but some here might not know us and our
    photo tinkering skills that well.
    I have had that happen in the past. I have some good shots of my wife
    with our dog and I have been taken by surprised by the glow coming from
    inside the mutt's head.

    It seems there is a need to heed W.C. Fields and his advice regarding
    working with children and animals.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 19, 2011
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  17. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    I'm surprised that Adobe hasn't added a Pet Eye tool similar to the
    Red Eye tool, or that there hasn't been an Action mentioned.

    When there's a family get-together (like we just had for a grandson's
    8th birthday party) and a lot of family snaps are taken, you really
    don't want a complicated set of steps for green eyes. Too many snaps
    to work on.

    For an image like that leopard shot that was posted, you can put in
    the necessary time. No leopard attended the birthday party, though.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 19, 2011
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  18. tony cooper

    Kele Guest

    The Red Eye Remover filter works great for "red" eyes, but not green. I just
    had a similar problem with a cat. I also tried an Animal Eye action script
    I found on-line, but that wasn't well recorded & I don't see the way to make
    it work. In the end I colored in the florescent green with black keeping
    the shine spot in the middle. This isn't pleasant and doesn't hold up to a
    high resolution inspection.

    A dose of light before the flash to shrink the subject's pupil helps reduce
    red-eye and green eye, but this isn't very spontaneous. And there's no way
    to pose a suspicious cat (wild animal) tracking the camera.
     
    Kele, Sep 19, 2011
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  19. tony cooper

    Kele Guest

    My bad, I thought I reached the end of the green-eye posts. Hue saturation
    adjustment layer - huh. Better to avoid green eye when taking a picture.
     
    Kele, Sep 19, 2011
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  20. Carrie,

    Thanks for your explanation.

    Tony obviously couldnt be bothered to politely respond to me taking
    the trouble to try and help him.



    Its simple.

    1. Why dosn't he highlight both the eyes
    Freeform Pen tool, so as to get marching ants.
    Make sure you use control so both are highlighted on a layer.


    2. Goto Image adjust anc change the colour.

    3. Or create detasurate highlighted eyes, and image adjust the colour

    4. Or Create new layer whilst still highlighted, and colour bucket
    with Feather tool and modify edge.

    Hes had many explanations now, he shouls be able to do it.

    Also youtube is a great resource.


    Regards


    Life is Good !!!
     
    Ritchie Valens, Sep 19, 2011
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