<Group>Can you capture to an external hard drive...

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by j pop, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. j pop

    j pop Guest

    Can you capture to an external hard drive (no compression)?

    I would like to capture from my digital camcorder (using a firewire)
    to an external hard drive using usb 2.0 and/or firewire. Can you use
    two firewire device on the same card?

    If you can capture to an external HD, can someone suggest either
    external HD or enclosure.

    Thanks a lot!

    j pop
    j pop, Dec 1, 2003
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  2. Yes. Use a maxtor DV 5000 line. The DV means digital video. They come
    from 80 gig to 250 gig. They are a lot faster that nornaml exteranl drive
    and supports firewire and USB 2.0
    Supreme Enchanter, Dec 1, 2003
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    TheMartian Guest


    I use several LaCie D2 250GB disks, plus a analog to DV converter, for
    capturing with no problems at all, all hooked up to a single firewire port

    as for which drive to use, I use nothing but LaCie D2 drives. They just
    work, and stay working, with USB (1.1/2) or Firewire (400/800) connection

    One word of warning, if you are a Mac user, UPGRADE THE DRIVE FIRMWARE
    before loading Panther
    TheMartian, Dec 1, 2003
  4. I use several LaCie D2 250GB disks, plus a analog to DV converter, for
    Can a camcorder write directly to a firewire hard drive, or does
    the data go through the cpu on its way to the hard drive?

    I see more USB 2.0 external drives advertised than firewire.
    Any recommendations about which is better for someone capturing
    video from a camcorder?

    Do any of the external drives use laptop drives inside? This would
    be an advantage for me since I'd like to be able to swap the drive
    into my laptop sometimes.


    Dan Christensen, Dec 2, 2003
  5. So far, I don't know of a direct cam to disk firewire setup -- it would
    truly be a sweet thing if it could be done.

    All the data does go through the CPU at some point. In from the camera, out
    to the storage medium.

    USB is something I'm still personally leery of, but YMMV. I personally feel
    USB is actually the abreviation for what you say when you plug something
    into it and expect it to work properly, i.e. "U Sonofa B..." Again, YMMV.
    The datarates are there, though, in USB 2.0 at least.

    a DV stream is iirc 3.7 MegaBYTES/second. USB 1.1 caps out at 12
    megaBITS/sec, USB 2.0 caps at 480megaBITS/sec, making USB fast enough by
    just under half to transfer DV. Firewire data rate is 400 megaBITS/sec,
    again fast enough for DV. I guess it's all in the implementation of your OS
    and drivers for the interfaces. But with modern software and interfaces and
    a fast enough HD, internal or external, USB2.0 or Firewire, you should be
    able to capture in from firewire and out to a firewire drive.

    Dunno about laptop HD's in external form. Most of what I've seen are cases
    for nominally internal full-size drives with both USB2.0 and Firewire jacks
    on the backs of 'em, so you can find a drive of the capacity of your choice,
    put it in the case and hook it up to the cpu that way.

    Sean Leistico, Dec 3, 2003
  6. There are drives that hook up to the camera and all you record on the camera
    it makes a copy on to the hard drive as AVI files. I forget the companies,
    but I think Sony is 1 and videonics is another. This would be done out in
    the field though as you are recording.
    Supreme Enchanter, Dec 3, 2003
  7. They aren't just firewire data drives though, as sold for computer
    use. Those drives are specifically built (and priced) for video work.
    Still a smart idea, though.

    Someone with a laptop can work with that as an alternative, coupled
    with a firewire or USB drive as the recording target for the capture.
    But a hardware firewire "backpack" drive would be simpler to use, less
    likely to have glitchy OS issues.
    Jeffery S. Jones, Dec 3, 2003
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