Gull diving for clam

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    me Guest

    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Mar 12, 2011
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    me Guest

    Not sure why you would think that. This was the third sequence of this
    gull diving. The closed road into a picnic area paralleling the shore
    is littered with shells now when the pickings get tough. River water
    temp is below 50F, so not many fish around to eat.
    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    Just like all of your comments and thought processes. You make your
    ASSessments with only 1/100th of the information you actually require, and
    as usual, end-up being 100% WRONG. Just more proof of your observation
    skills, both in taking photos as well in what you think are good ones of
    yours (and others).

    Tighten those blinders of self-induced-ignorance some more to retain your
    bliss of ignorance, born from those deep insecurities you bear. I don't
    think your blinders left a deep enough scar on your pointy little head yet.
    Though they sure do leave a deep enough impact in every last one of your
    useless crapshots!

    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    Ignore Daffy Duck. Apparently he can't even see the clam in the gull's
    beak. That's how great his powers of observation are. Clearly evidenced by
    all of his own relentless crapshots that he's ever posted.

    As for your photos, they're okay snapshots, but nothing to write home
    about. Good practice shots though. Keep at it. Learn to tighten the view
    for better compositions. Albeit, with this you must become much more adept
    at following fast moving subjects. That's why these are good practice
    shots. Now try the same with 2 times that focal-length. With practice you
    can fill the frame with just the bird and splashes. Photographing birds
    diving into water takes its own bit of expertise. While following and
    panning with the bird you have to learn to instinctively and abruptly stop
    the camera at the water's surface, rather than following the motion through
    smoothly. Abruptly stopping the camera where the bird hits the water.
    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    Why would you think that those shells were the result of gulls having
    picked clams from a dive?
    You have made a presumption that it is a clam the bird is after.
    If anything the gull is diving on bait fish, shrimp, or some other
    crustacean which does not bury itself in sand or silt.
    I would expect a shorebird capturing a clam to have dug it from exposed
    tidal flat or shoreline. To the best of my knowledge there are not too
    many birds prepared to jamb their bills into sand from a dive, or free
    swimming clams for the bird to dive on.
    Savageduck, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    Hey DAFFY DUCK! Turn in any cameras you own for GLASSES and a MIND to SEE
    WITH! You sorely need them.

    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    me Guest

    Tells you what you think you know, they are not full frame shots.
    What f.l. do you think these are?
    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    Since the EXIF info is missing from them (they are not protected from being
    downloaded and checked, even though it might appear that way to you)
    there's no way to tell without that embedded information. If these are
    tight crops then you're a much worse nature-photographer than I thought you
    were to begin with, and in dire need of much much more practice. That's
    more than anyone needs to know at this point.

    I guess you shouldn't have admitted that, eh?
    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    p.s. Remind me to never share any of my valuable and expert
    nature-photography techniques with you ever again. I've already learned to
    not do that with most of the rest in these newsgroups. You've just been
    added to the ever-growing list of MORONS.

    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    J. Clarke Guest

    OK, since according to you it's not a clam, what _is_ that object the
    gull is holding in the last three frames of the sequence?
    J. Clarke, Mar 12, 2011
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    me Guest

    Admitted what, that I baited and reeled you in?
    I just happen to use a skin of JAlbum that strips exif. I have no
    illusion the posted image can't be seen, as is for any image posted to
    the 'net.

    Still waiting to get your guess as to the f.l, of the photos posted.
    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    me Guest

    Couldn't think of that in your first reply?

    To quote Bugs, "What a maroon!"
    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    Yep, you truly ARE a moron. That can't be deduced from the photo and
    subject alone. But then, you'd know this ... IF YOU WEREN'T SUCH A PATHETIC
    MORON. Going to prove it yet again?

    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    me Guest

    Than why did you originally reply :

    Seems you thought you had some idea to f.l., no?
    If not this original statement of yours is BS as you then had no idea
    if such an f.l. is even possible,
    me, Mar 12, 2011
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    LOL! Guest

    I shoot birds in-flight with f.l.s up to 1600mm (sometimes more). I presume
    you do know that lenses go that high? (and higher) I suggested 2x's the
    length you were using to get rid of the 1/2 of the frame that is just
    useless space, adding nothing to, and detracting from the subject itself.
    That's how I know that you should try 2x's as much as you were using. 2X's
    is relative to whatever f.l. you were using at the time. I did not need to
    know what f.l. you were using other than it wasn't enough. Get it? YOU

    I'd tell you what to do if you are unable to attain the focal-lengths
    needed, but then that would be teaching you something. Teaching you
    anything is now clearly a waste of anyone's time.
    LOL!, Mar 12, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    I have to admit, that does appear to be quite clammish.

    It still seems strange to have a clam caught that way when most I am
    aware of have to be dug up from between 6 to 18 inches of sand.
    Savageduck, Mar 12, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    On 2011-03-12 12:33:44 -0800, me <> said:

    Now you are really insulting Elmer & "The Martian" by association. They
    have much more character, and are true Bugsian "maroons".
    Savageduck, Mar 12, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    It certainly seems to be clam, but the Duck's comment was about what
    the bird was diving *for*, not what he came up with. Except for their
    phenomenal ability to target people when pooping, gulls are not
    particularly bright birds. They'll grab whatever they end up spearing
    with their dive, but I don't think they go clam diving.

    Good set of images, though. Too bad the review settled on the gull's
    intent, and not the photographer's eye.
    tony cooper, Mar 12, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    Agreed. I don't believe gulls are natural clam hunters.
    If you check my first response in this thread my final comment was,
    "Nice capture series".
    Savageduck, Mar 12, 2011
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