Has anyone got any tips to prevent wind noise

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I like in a windy city so recording a video outside can be a problem with
    strong gusts of wind at times causing wind noise on the video.

    How anyone got some useful tips to help with this problem?
     
    Brian, Feb 19, 2012
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  2. Brian

    Steve King Guest

    Using a camera mic?

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Feb 19, 2012
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  3. Brian

    ushere Guest

    don't shoot when it's windy ;-)
    (sorry, couldn't resist).

    what exactly are you recording, ambient, interviews?
     
    ushere, Feb 19, 2012
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  4. Brian

    Mxsmanic Guest

    For an on-camera mic, you're stuck, unless you can find some sort of
    wind-blocking device that actually fits the mic. The mics on my little
    Handycam are flush with the camera body, though, and don't really make any
    provision for wind protection.

    If it's a separate mike, you can get all sorts of wind-blocking devices. See

    http://www.rycote.com

    They make not only expensive pro stuff but also tiny Windjammers at reasonable
    prices that work very well for prosumer mics.
     
    Mxsmanic, Feb 19, 2012
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  5. See the above, and also try to find a (possibly too)
    small stick-on furry patch that may fit over flush mics
    on small video cameras, if that is what you need (I've
    found them at bhphotovideo.com, but the search took
    a while...). I would start with a decent external mic
    (I like the Sony 908C, but it is no longer made), with
    a foam cover and then a "furry" sleeve (like a Rycote)
    over that. This can be very effective - but get a sleeve
    that is long enough to extend over the whole sound
    sensitive length of the mic, plus some...
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Feb 19, 2012
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  6. I was shooting a car show with announcer on PA system, wind noise ruining
    everything. Then I got the inspiration to put the little lavalier mike in my
    shirt pocket, and voila. Problem solved. Just get the damned thing out of
    the wind any way you can.

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Feb 19, 2012
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  7. Brian

    Mxsmanic Guest

    I keep wondering if I could make a windjammer-type thing myself out of some
    sort of synthetic fur, with scissors and tape, but I haven't tried it yet.
     
    Mxsmanic, Feb 19, 2012
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  8. Brian

    Steve King Guest

    You can. Fabric stores have several kinds of furry fabric. Get a couple of
    samples. Anything over 4 " square should cover most any camera mic. The
    first time I had to shoot in extremely heavy 30 knot plus winds I was very
    concerned that I wouldn't get usable audio from this Olympic medal winning
    athlete. The sound man used a Sennheiser AM416 with a cage and a Rycote
    fuzzy. There was zero wind noise. Amazing.

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Feb 19, 2012
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  9. Brian

    Mxsmanic Guest

    Is the cage necessary to get it to zero, or will the fuzzy alone suffice?

    Rycote says their products are "acoustically transparent," but I'm not sure
    how to distinguish between acoustically transparent synthetic fur and
    non-acoustically transparent synthetic fur.

    At present, I don't worry about it too much, because I only use on-camera mics
    for ambient noise. I guess I could use them for close-up interviews as well in
    non-windy situations. But for other purposes I have a little separate audio
    recorder with a mini-Windjammer, plus a lavalier mic if I need that (but right
    now I'm not doing any videos that require clear recording of dialog, anyway).

    The mini-Windjammer was only $40, which probably still provides Rycote with a
    95% margin, but at least it doesn't break the bank. And it seems to work
    pretty well, even without a separate cage. Better than just a piece of foam.
     
    Mxsmanic, Feb 19, 2012
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  10. Brian

    Steve King Guest

    I use what Rycote calls a softy on my Sennheiser Shotgun. It's an
    all-in-one device, sort of a built in 'cage' covered with fuzzy stuff.
    About $200 I'd guess;-)

    Steve King
     
    Steve King, Feb 19, 2012
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  11. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Anything outside. The last time i had wind noise was when I was recording a
    performer in the park.
     
    Brian, Feb 20, 2012
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  12. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Thats what I'm hoping to do but I don't know what type of material to use.
    I might need to experiment. My mic is flat with he top of he camera so I
    should be able to cover it with material (maybe the soft foam material that
    covers computer cards to protect them from knocks in the post). I have a
    portable audio recorder and it comes with foam to protect it from wind
    noise which works well but the shape of the foam is wrong to use on my
    camera.
     
    Brian, Feb 20, 2012
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  13. Brian

    ushere Guest

    well, depending on your budget....

    wireless mike on talent / shotgun on camera - mix for ambient

    shotgun on boom / mic stand

    in all cases with wind jammer (fur, blimp, whatever)

    and if the wind is bad, position yourself so the wind's behind you....
     
    ushere, Feb 20, 2012
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  14. Foam comes in open-cell and closed cell types. If you can't
    blow through the foam, it isn't suitable for audio. With
    the open-cell type, try listening to a TV, etc. with/without
    the foam between your ear and the sound source. If you can't
    hear a difference in the high frequencies, it may be suitable
    for use on a mic. A source for foam designed for sound use is
    Radio Shack, or a musical-instrument/sound-amplification store.
    You can then cut a stock foam cover to fit.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Feb 20, 2012
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  15. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Thanks for the advice David.
    The early models of video cameras had wind protection on the cameras mic
    but after a while when being rubbed against the camera bag it started to
    wear away.
     
    Brian, Feb 21, 2012
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