Has Premiere Elements improved recently?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Peter, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Hi All,

    I am using Premiere Elements v4, with some patches applied.

    It mostly works but as soon as you do something a little more
    involved, like adding titles to a movie, it shows itself to be a buggy
    piece of crap, and crashes frequently.

    It does this on three different PCs, all running winXP SP3, with loads
    of RAM (3GB), big hard drives, 256/512MB video cards, etc.

    Is the current version seems to be v9. Is it any good?
     
    Peter, Jun 25, 2011
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  2. I've used Elements v4, and I have a recommendation:
    switch to the VERY versatile and stable Sony Vegas
    Movie Studio HD Platinum 11, which has most of the
    features of the Pro version, but sells for around
    $100 (the v10 suite is only $60.29 including free
    shipping, which is almost identical, is at --

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Vegas-Mo...1CZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309016297&sr=8-1
    );
    the v11 suite, which has a few new features that may
    (or may not) be useful to you, for $104.99 is here --

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Creative...6IPI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1309016297&sr=8-2
    ..
    For a feature comparison, go here --
    http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope/compare .
    BTW, if you edit HDV, Elements is a VERY poor program
    choice ( http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/hdv-editing.htm ).
    Also BTW, the newer versions of Elements appear to be
    even more "dumbed down" (true also, apparently, of FCP),
    but successive versions of Vegas get more features.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jun 25, 2011
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  3. Peter

    Peter Guest

    That's interesting - many thanks.

    Can Vegas be installed on multiple PCs? I have 3 PCs - home, work, and
    a laptop.

    You also do not mention Premiere Elements' bugginess. The program
    crashes on almost every session.
     
    Peter, Jun 25, 2011
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  4. I think so. I intend to put Platinum MS v10 on my computer
    (it is currently on another) to make use of some features
    that Pro9 doesn't have...
    For me, it was quite stable. Since I was using HDV at the
    time (for which Elements is not a good choice), that was
    the issue I had with using it. Vegas appears to be very
    stable, versatile, and compatible with a wide range of
    formats.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jun 25, 2011
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  5. Peter

    Mike Kujbida Guest


    You can install Vegas on as many computers as you want as long as you're
    only running it on one machine at a time.
    Of course, all machines have to registered.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jun 26, 2011
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  6. Peter

    Peter Guest

    That's not a problem.

    Incidentally, how does it know? The only way is to go on the internet
    whenever the program is running, which is a highly dodgy thing to do.

    It would be good to get something that doesn't keep crashing. I bought
    Pinnacle and spent more money on upgrades over the years, but it was
    always crap, and the reviews said so (well, as far as they could
    without losing the advertising revenue ;)). Then I bought P/Elements 4
    and it was a nicer program but it still crashed a great deal. I cannot
    understand how the vendors can churn out such crap, for a hundred quid
    or so.

    I even tried a Liquid 7 trial once. Couldn't get it to work. The final
    video was always black (it worked apart from that). Later I discovered
    I didn't have the right processor! You would think that the programmer
    would not be such a dickhead, and would check for the processor type,
    during installation, or when the program starts.
     
    Peter, Jun 26, 2011
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  7. Peter

    Tony Guest

    If you are having all of these problems with many programs, the problem is probably with your
    computer and how it is set up. You cant just install these editing programs on a typical computer
    and expect it to work. I dont know your level of expertise at setting up an editing workstation but
    I assume you know the basics like to never use your system drive as a capture\edit drive. You should
    turn off drive indexing on the video drive. There are a ton of things that really need to done to
    tweak the system to make it work well. I never have crashes with Premiere or Newtek products or even
    Vegas.

    The minimum system requirements are usually listed on the box or on the website so that you can make
    sure you are good to go before you buy. Many times, it is the CPU (some progs hate AMD), video card
    or certain chipsets. You have to do your research before you buy .There is no way these developers
    can test for every combination of systems that are out there. This is the one reason Apple was
    always more stable. They had complete control of the hardware so it was easier to write applications
    to work with the systems. Good luck.

    Tony
     
    Tony, Jun 27, 2011
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  8. Peter

    Mike Kujbida Guest


    Sony doesn't care if you ever go online with the machine.
    All you need to do is register the product.
    Registration can be done from a different computer.
    None of my work machines are ever online so that's the way I do it for them.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jun 27, 2011
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