Has scene detection (changes in the scene) been added to Vegas Pro 12

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    One useful feature that Sony Vegas Po seems to lack is scene detection by
    changes in the scene.
    I would like to import a video clip and get Vegas to break it up into video
    clips by using scene change.
    Other video editors such as Pinnacle Studio HD does this.

    Has this feature been added to version 12 of Sony Vegas Pro?
     
    Brian, Nov 13, 2012
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  2. I assume from this that you are capturing from tape(?).
    Otherwise, if capturing from a memory card or HD, every
    time you begin a new recording, a new file is produced.
    Vegas can split scenes when downloading tape, but it
    doesn't (or didn't...) do it very well with HDV (a couple
    of frames at each end of the cut were damaged, at least
    with Pro 8...). A better way to download and split HDV
    was with the excellent (and free) HDVSplit program (don't
    bother with the unnecessary viewer part), offered at --
    http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Nov 13, 2012
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  3. I thought it was done by jumps in the time code, which should be easy
    to program into any software (by the creators of the program, not by
    us!).
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 13, 2012
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  4. Brian

    Paul Guest

    Windows Movie Maker has that. It has a "create clips" function.

    http://www.underwaterphotography.com/Video-Editing/Windows-Movie-Maker/Software/creatingclips.asp

    1) from a DV camera that is connected to an IEEE 1394 port,
    clips are created based on the time stamp...

    2) video from an analog camera or Web camera, a clip is created
    when there is a substantial change in one frame of the video
    compared to the next frame.

    3) import a Windows Media file with an .asf or .wmv file name extension
    that has file markers inserted, a clip is created for each marker.
    If the source Windows Media file contains no markers or only one marker,
    a clip is created when there is a substantial change in one frame of the
    video compared to the next frame.

    So basically, two methods.

    It's one of the few features that WMM can brag about. There isn't
    much else of value to it.

    Paul
     
    Paul, Nov 13, 2012
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  5. Brian

    mike Guest


    If it's SD video you're referring to, ScenalyzerLive is a great and
    inexpensive (34.00 U.S.) app for doing this.
    http://www.scenalyzer.com/

    Mike
     
    mike, Nov 13, 2012
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  6. Most common editing software (that I know of, anyway...;-)
    includes this feature, for both SD and HD...
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Nov 13, 2012
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  7. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I brought Dazzle recently which came with the video editor Pinnacle Studio
    HD and it does an excellent job in detecting scene changes when loading a
    video file or importing an analog signal from VHS tape but Pinnacle Studio
    is limited in what it offers so I wad hoping that the latest version of
    Vegas Pro had this feature added.

    One other feature Pinnacle Studio had was stop motion animation and it had
    the onion skin feature so you can view the last frame(s) to adjust the
    object for the next frame.
     
    Brian, Nov 14, 2012
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  8. Brian

    Brian Guest

    No its a file that has already been rendered such as most files that you
    can download from the internet these days.
     
    Brian, Nov 14, 2012
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  9. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I want to use a video file that has already been rendered (filename.avi) so
    it won't have the timecode.
     
    Brian, Nov 14, 2012
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  10. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I want to load a video file into Vegas and tell it to detect scene changes
    so that it cuts up the video into small parts that can be edited. I have
    come across people wanting this feature when they had Vegas version 8 while
    searching the internet. This feature does not seem to be in the Vegas movie
    studio either.
     
    Brian, Nov 14, 2012
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  11. [Combining in one place pieces from others of Brian's posts, below...]
    So far, my post above is relevant...;-)
    Ah-HAH! This is a very different situation - but most programs
    split the video by interruptions in the time code, which is
    not what you are looking for...
    I doubt that it does (since most material these days is
    downloaded from source-video memory cards, which is already
    split by takes, or from tapes), but I don't know (I haven't
    dared to load my copy of Pro 12 yet...;-).
    Some interesting features! Since you now have Pinnacle, why
    not just use it for features you want in addition to another
    program (like Pro 12) that you may use as your main editing
    program?
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Nov 14, 2012
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  12. I didn't guess that from your question...

    But others have now addressed the issue, and they know much more than I
    do :)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 14, 2012
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  13. Brian

    Brian Guest

    You should be able to run both versions of Vegas on your computer.

    The standard version of Pinnacle Studio HD is limited to 2 video tracks and
    2 audio tracks and has no key framing.
    What I find useful is to study a TV serial to see how it was edited. Once
    the video is separated into scene changes I can see how long each scene was
    and its surprising that some scenes are less than 2 seconds long. It's look
    to learn from the experts.
     
    Brian, Nov 15, 2012
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  14. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Sorry I should have given more information.
     
    Brian, Nov 15, 2012
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    Mxsmanic Guest

    Professional editors do that by hand. That's why editors exist in the first
    place. I'd hardly expect to see such a thing in any professional editing
    product.
     
    Mxsmanic, Nov 15, 2012
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  16. Brian

    Brian Guest

    It's also lacking in their home user product Vegas Movie Studio.
    I find it useful as a learning too as I can take apart a video to see how
    it's edited.
     
    Brian, Nov 15, 2012
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  17. And, of course, you can also go through the video and manually
    cut it apart...;-)
    I could, BUT, if I open a project in Pro 12 and save it by mistake
    (although a warning does appear when doing that...), the project
    would no longer be usable in an earlier version of Vegas.
    Do that in PS-HD and use another editor for your "serious" work...;-)
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Nov 15, 2012
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  18. It all comes out in the end, so don't worry.

    Also, I *could* have said "I misinterpreted your question" :)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 15, 2012
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