Has the Photoshopping been overdone?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Eric Stevens, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. Eric Stevens

    J. Clarke Guest

    They pay cops well where you live do they?
     
    J. Clarke, Feb 13, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    it's *exactly* what i said.[/QUOTE]

    Not quite. In <120220141835141572%> you said:
    "general motors was well known for doing that. chevy, buick, oldsmobile
    and cadillac were really just different labels on the same cars (with
    the exception of a few that were one brand only, like a corvette)."
    Nope it is a Chevrolet model, just as the Impala is a Chevrolet model.
    The brand is Chevrolet.
    You do realize that stuff persists in these Usenet posts?
    Once more I refer you to your own words in
    <120220141835141572%>:
    "general motors was well known for doing that. chevy, buick, oldsmobile
    and cadillac were really just different labels on the same cars (with
    the exception of a few that were one brand only, like a corvette)."
    That is not what you originally said. So here you are twisting to
    extricate yourself.
    That is as close as I am going to get to you understanding that the
    *brand* producing a model "Corvette", not to be confused with a
    "Corsair", is Chevrolet, which is a GM subsidiary.
    That's Kentucky for you.
    Never mind. It is time to swim my way out of the nospam vortex.
     
    Savageduck, Feb 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    I did not bring up apple. I talked about Apple fanbois. There are
    significant differences.
     
    PeterN, Feb 14, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    Not bad with overtime, as a Sergeant, then Lieutenant I was pulling in
    6 figures annually for about 15 years before I retired. My lowest
    earning year was my first year on the job, then for the following 5
    years I never made much below $60K. My base pay as a Lieutenant was
    $96K.

    I bought the 560SEL used for $18K when I did this to my Ford Contour
    after falling asleep at the wheel after pulling two 18 hour shifts.
    < >
    I also bought the S600 used for $36K. The first E350 was leased, and I
    have 8 more payments on the current E350.

    Now I have a CALPers pension of about $76K + what I was able to
    squirrel away with my 457K & my 401K plans.
    CALPers reimburses my Medicare part B premium, and fully covers my
    Anthem Blue Cross PPO Medicare supplement (which includes a
    prescription plan). So, my only medical insurance costs are $7/month
    for vision, and $12/month for dental.
    I consider myself very fortunate.
     
    Savageduck, Feb 14, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    Oops! I omitted the URL.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Ford_08.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Feb 14, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    i'm not saying they're the same just because they're by adobe.

    i'm saying they're the same because they are the same app, but targeted
    to two different types of users by offering a different mix of features
    and price points.

    but since everyone wants to nitpick, one is essentially a subset of the
    other. it's not an exact subset, but that's yet another triviality that
    doesn't actually matter.[/QUOTE]

    And what's more Adobe has always named them differently. One package
    is named 'Photoshop' with the release identifier following, and then
    there is the quite separate 'Elements Family' which contains 'Adobe
    Photoshop Elements' and 'Adobe Premier Elements', the names of both of
    which are followed by the release identifier. Even today, if you
    approach Adobe and ask for 'Photoshop' you will get 'Photoshop CC'.
    See under 'Products' at http://tinyurl.com/mjwyvdm (the Adobe site).
     
    Eric Stevens, Feb 14, 2014
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Geez. I shoulda been a cop. I know a graduate of Yale Law School who
    never made that.
     
    J. Clarke, Feb 14, 2014
  8. Eric Stevens

    J. Clarke Guest

    J. Clarke, Feb 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    Not quite. In <120220141835141572%> you said:
    "general motors was well known for doing that. chevy, buick, oldsmobile
    and cadillac were really just different labels on the same cars (with
    the exception of a few that were one brand only, like a corvette)."[/QUOTE]

    what part of that confuses you?
    are you going to nitpick brands versus manufactures now? seriously?
    nowhere does that say that corvette *is* the brand.

    what it says is that some cars are one brand only, and among the one
    brand only cars, are corvettes.

    that statement is 100% true. i don't know how anyone can misinterpret
    it, but i guess there are some.

    saying 'with the exception of a few that were one brand only like a
    chevrolet' is meaningless. nobody would say that. it makes no sense.
    it is without question what i said originally.

    if you think otherwise, you ought to revisit your english comprehension
    skills.
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    you're a wealth of contradictions.

    but ignoring that nonsensical distinction for the moment, you *also*
    said the following:

    but then apple determines what its users need

    which is still quoted above.

    that has nothing to do with fanbois and *everything* to do with apple.

    which means you *did* bring up apple all along.
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    I brought up Apple, not apple. You still don't see the diffrence.
     
    PeterN, Feb 14, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    what part of that confuses you?
    are you going to nitpick brands versus manufactures now? seriously?
    nowhere does that say that corvette *is* the brand.

    what it says is that some cars are one brand only, and among the one
    brand only cars, are corvettes.

    that statement is 100% true. i don't know how anyone can misinterpret
    it, but i guess there are some.

    saying 'with the exception of a few that were one brand only like a
    chevrolet' is meaningless. nobody would say that. it makes no sense.
    it is without question what i said originally.

    if you think otherwise, you ought to revisit your english comprehension
    skills.[/QUOTE]

    This has got to be one of nospam's most convoluted and confusing
    positions. I can't make sense out of it. Chevrolet is a brand and
    Corvette is a different brand? And that Chevy, Buick, Oldsmobile and
    Cadillac are the same car?

    Where do "models" fit into this?
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    I wonder if he has a Gracie Allen hat closet.
     
    PeterN, Feb 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    i never said corvette was a brand.

    i said the corvette is a one brand car, and it is.

    savageduck somehow thinks i meant corvette was a brand. i can't even
    begin to figure how anyone can come up with that interpretation.
    many of their models were exactly the same car, differing only by trim
    and what packages are offered.

    and i'm sure you're going to say 'but that makes them different'. no,
    it doesn't. they came off the same assembly line, possibly even on the
    same day. repairs use the same parts.
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2014
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    J. Clarke Guest

    His point seems to be that the Corvette was sold only as a Chevrolet,
    while most GM models are sold with minor cosmetic modifications as
    several different brands.
     
    J. Clarke, Feb 14, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    What is a "one brand car"? They have more than one model Corvette.
    Yes, it does.
    Your position makes no sense at all.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 14, 2014
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    Guest Guest

    at least someone gets it.

    there is hope for humanity.
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2014
  18. Eric Stevens

    Guest Guest

    you must be kidding me. you seriously can't figure out what i mean?
    no, it does not.

    if you buy a red impala and paint it blue, is it a different car?

    no, it's just a different colour. it's still the same car, with the
    same miles, same dents, same needed repairs, etc.

    if you wear a suit today and a t-shirt tomorrow, are you a different
    person? no.
    maybe not to you but it does to everyone else.
     
    Guest, Feb 14, 2014
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Tony, I feel like both you and Duck are being deliberately obtuse.

    It is very well known in the auto industry that all the major US
    automakers have standard bodies that are "badge-engineered" to produce
    different brands. For example the GM "Y" body was used for the Buick
    Skylark, Oldsmobile F-85, and Pontiac Tempest up until 1963. The later
    1984-present Y-body is the Corvette, and was from 2004-2009 also used
    for the Cadillac XLR.
     
    J. Clarke, Feb 14, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    I shouldn't have "figure out" what you mean. It's quite possible to
    write coherently enough that people don't need to "figure out" what
    you mean.

    The manufacture is General Motors. The brand is Chevrolet. The model
    is the Corvette Sting Ray Coupe. The Chevrolet brand includes other
    models.

    If you mean that the Corvette is the only model in the Chevrolet brand
    family that does not share features with other models in the brand
    family, then say that.

    You are re-defining "brand" to mean something that "brand" is not is
    not accepted to be.

    In some models, but this does not include all models. Parts for the
    Chevrolet Volt are not interchangeable with the part for the Chevrolet
    Impala or the Buick Regal.
    "Everyone" does not seem to include everyone here.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 14, 2014
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