having trouble getting small text in gif to look decent?

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Les Caudle, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. Les Caudle

    Les Caudle Guest

    I'm using Photoshop 6 and the myriad font.

    I tried creating the transparent image at 300 dpi and then using 'save
    for web' - but the text looks horrible in the transparent gif.

    I'm evaluating Photoshop CS with their free trial, but it doesn't have
    Myriad.

    1. What do I need to do to get the text to look correct and not like
    it was sent thru a defective transporter?

    2. How can I move the Myriad font over to the box with Photoshop CS so
    I can tell whether it can produce a better image?
     
    Les Caudle, Dec 21, 2004
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    Peadge Guest

    First, Why are creating something for the Web at 300 ppi?
    Second, if your saving it at 300 ppi, why are you saving it as a GIF?
    How many colors are you using for your GIF?
    Try choosing "perceptual."

    You can use your System fonts with Photoshop CS, so if the font is on your
    computer, you can use it.
    Perhaps with the trial version, this may be different.

    From the lovely folks at F1:
    In addition to the fonts installed on your system, Photoshop uses font files
    in these local folders:

    Windows
    Program Files/Common Files/ Adobe/Fonts

    Mac OS 9.x
    System Folder/Application Support/ Adobe/Fonts

    Mac OS X
    Library/Application Support/ Adobe/Fonts

    If you install a Type 1, TrueType, OpenType, or CID font into the local
    Fonts folder, the font appears in Adobe applications only.

    Peadge :)
     
    Peadge, Dec 22, 2004
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    Clyde Guest

    If you convert Photoshop file with fonts on separate layers to JPEG or
    Save for Web, Photoshop tries to anti-alias with nothing. It treats the
    font layer separately and has nothing behind it to anti-alias with. This
    is true whether the layer behind it is transparent or something that you
    actually see. As you have noticed, it will give very jagged edges to the
    text.

    The way around this is to flatten the whole image (or otherwise
    rasterize the text layer) before you Save for Web. This will allow
    Photoshop to properly anti-alias the text with the background. The edges
    then stay nice and smooth.

    BTW, Photoshop doesn't have any fonts. The fonts are separate and
    managed by your OS or an addition to your OS. Photoshop will see and
    work with any active font your OS tells it is there.

    Clyde
     
    Clyde, Dec 22, 2004
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  4. Les Caudle

    Les Caudle Guest

    Clyde - I did rasterize each text layer and merge the layers
    (flattening give me a completely white image - my text is white on
    transparent background).

    The end-result in Image Ready is much thicker text that looks
    horrible.

    I tried changing to 72 dpi before converting. Again horrible result.

    I am at a loss.

    BTW - everytime I try to 'save for web' - I get an error about the
    original web browser I used to use not being accessible. How can I
    tell PS which brower to use for ImageReady.

    Thanks, Les Caudle
     
    Les Caudle, Dec 22, 2004
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    SpaceGirl Guest

    PhotoShop does have fonts... they're in their own folder under the
    Adobe/Photoshop folder.

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    jrzyguy Guest

    the font thing

    Do you have a vector program like illustrator or corel? with illustrator
    you have all your fonts easily available and can just copy and paste your
    text into photoshop as a path and then right click and choose "make
    seletion" ...bingo! Just make sure that you have the selection on its own
    layer (not the background layer) before you try to fill it.

    I know PS has come a long way with fonts...but i tend to like to work with
    my fonts in vector first...then get them in photoshop and style them there.

    JMHO,

    hh



    You have to convert your font to a shape first though.
     
    jrzyguy, Dec 23, 2004
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  7. Les Caudle

    Peadge Guest


    Why not just copy the fonts to the Font folder within Photoshop? Fonts in
    Photoshop are vectors until they're rasterized.

    Peadge :)
     
    Peadge, Dec 23, 2004
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  8. Les Caudle

    jrzyguy Guest

    well...i have over a thousands fonts...and dont like to overload my decaying
    system needlesly.....plus i find that the fonts are much more editible and
    flexible in a vector program. i can tweak the font the way that i like it
    in illustrator or corel.....and then bring it into PS and then apply some
    styles to it that i like there. It is just the way that i like doing
    things. not saying i am RIGHT...just that it works for me
     
    jrzyguy, Dec 28, 2004
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