Help me choose my first dslr

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Padu, Aug 14, 2006.

  1. Padu

    Padu Guest

    Hi,

    While I'm new to the dslr market, I used to be an advanced amateur 35mm
    photographer (I even had my own B&W lab). Let me tell you first what are my
    restrictions/desires/hints:

    - I own a Minolta Maxxum 7000 and two zoom lenses
    - I don't have the money/don't want to spend more than $1000
    - I intend to take family/vacation photos, with eventual artistic snapshots,
    nothing professional

    I've been researching for about a week and right now I'm divided between the
    sony A100 and the pentax istDL. The pentax is cheap, so I can buy an
    additional lens. From what I've heard, it is a possibility that I can use my
    old maxxum lenses and/or buy legacy lenses for specific needs from ebay or
    used market.

    Nikon D200 is definitely out of my budget... don't try to convince me.

    Cheers and TIA

    Padu
     
    Padu, Aug 14, 2006
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    Cameras Guest

    It seems that Sony is the only choice you have.
     
    Cameras, Aug 14, 2006
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  3. Padu

    Padu Guest

    "Cameras"

    So, in your personal opinion which one would you choose:

    -Pentax ist*DL
    -Nikon D50
    -Nikon D70
    -Canon Rebel dXT
    -Canon EOS 20D
    -Sony A100

    TIA

    Padu
     
    Padu, Aug 15, 2006
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  4. Padu

    Craig M Guest

    Let me put 2 cents worth in here:
    I just purchased my first DSLR, went and got the Nikon D50, with the 18-55
    lens, and its a great camera, from what I have used of it so far, ISO goes
    to 1600, the pentax goes to 3200 but I dont think you need it that high,
    noise starts to come into play then, and I used to use a cannon AE-1, and a
    few P & S's before the dlsr, get the one gig card, and at hi res over 250
    shots, and a rechargable battery to boot, cant be beat, and under the $
    1,000 limit you talked about.
     
    Craig M, Aug 15, 2006
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    SkipM Guest

    You shouldn't rely on someone else's opinion when facing this large an
    expenditure. For instance, my personal choice would be the 20D, because it
    fits my hands better than any of the other cameras you list except for the
    Nikon D70, and I don't like the feel of it, either. Plus, since I've shot
    Canon SLRs for more than 20 years, I'm used to the control layout and I have
    a large number of Canon lenses already on hand. Those reasons may be
    completely irrelevant to you.
    The reason he suggested that the Sony was the only choice for you probably
    had something to do with the thought that if you purchase any of the other
    cameras you list, you will also have to buy a lens or lenses, which will
    push your purchase price over the $1000 limit you mentioned. If you go with
    the Sony, your Minolta lenses will work on it.
     
    SkipM, Aug 15, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    You don't think he needs it this high?
    What makes you think that?
     
    Mark², Aug 15, 2006
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  7. Padu

    Padu Guest

    "Mark²"
    I think he guessed, and guessed right. I don't usually shoot sports or
    anything that requires higher speeds. Even when I was a skydiver
    photographer I wouldn't go higher than ISO400 or 800. If they (35mm and
    digital) are comparable, then I'll probably never go higher than 800.
     
    Padu, Aug 15, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    Who's telling you that you can use old Maxxum lenses on a Pentax?
     
    Paul Mitchum, Aug 15, 2006
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  9. Padu

    Padu Guest

    "Paul Mitchum"
    All the reviews I've read so far.

    this is one of them:

    "Sony Alpha/Minolta-A bayonet lens mount"
    http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/alpha100.html

    They also mention that flash hotshoe is compatible with some minolta
    flashes... I have a minolta 4000AF, maybe it is compatible too?
     
    Padu, Aug 15, 2006
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  10. Padu

    Paul Mitchum Guest

    Ah, so you've read that the Maxxum lenses can fit on a *Sony,* not a
    Pentax.
     
    Paul Mitchum, Aug 15, 2006
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  11. Padu

    Mark² Guest

    High ISO isn't just for speed.
    It's for low-light situations.
    If you're never in low-light situations...then great!
    Most people find themselves in these, and sometimes flash ruins a dark
    scene. This is where good high-ISO performance saves the day.
     
    Mark², Aug 15, 2006
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  12. Padu

    Padu Guest

    "Paul Mitchum"
    I apologize the confusion, yes, on a sony, which is really based on a
    minolta, so it makes sense to be backwards compatible.
     
    Padu, Aug 15, 2006
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    Craig M Guest

    Was thinking of how grainy it comes out, or may come out.
     
    Craig M, Aug 15, 2006
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  14. Padu

    Craig M Guest

    Not so much a guess, just lots of reading in this group, and what I recall
    from 35mm slr film use, would almost never hear of pushing film speed that
    high.
     
    Craig M, Aug 15, 2006
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    leivas.geo Guest

    This is what I bought on B&H Photo in April for $947.35:

    - Camera kit (body + 18-55mm)
    - Zoom Telephoto EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III USM
     
    leivas.geo, Aug 15, 2006
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    BJ in Texas Guest

    || Hi,
    ||
    || While I'm new to the dslr market, I used to be an advanced
    || amateur 35mm photographer (I even had my own B&W lab). Let me
    || tell you first what are my restrictions/desires/hints:
    ||
    || - I own a Minolta Maxxum 7000 and two zoom lenses
    || - I don't have the money/don't want to spend more than $1000
    || - I intend to take family/vacation photos, with eventual
    || artistic snapshots, nothing professional
    ||
    || I've been researching for about a week and right now I'm
    || divided between the sony A100 and the pentax istDL. The
    || pentax is cheap, so I can buy an additional lens. From what
    || I've heard, it is a possibility that I can use my old maxxum
    || lenses and/or buy legacy lenses for specific needs from ebay
    || or used market.
    ||
    || Nikon D200 is definitely out of my budget... don't try to
    || convince me.
    ||
    || Cheers and TIA
    ||
    || Padu

    If you want to reuse the lens that you have, thereby saving
    money,
    you would likely get the Sony.

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    BJ in Texas, Aug 15, 2006
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    Thomas Guest

    Hmhm. I would not compromise on quality, so while Pentax is certainly a
    reasonable choice for an amateur, I don't think it fits your case. The
    Sony is certainly a good idea. However, if you can still find a Minolta
    5D, that would be the perfect camera for you. Keep in mind that most
    DSLRs have a crop factor, so you probably need a new wide angle lense.
    If you don't expect wonders, the typical kit lense may do. (Of course,
    if you buy a kit lense, you could nearly start with a new system...)

    One other option may be to buy the an Olympus with a 2 lense kit.
    Because of the smaller format it is quite cheap. The quality is still
    very reasonable, with the exception of low light performance.
    That is correct. If you like the Minolta system, I would try to find a
    used Minolta 5D. Now that the A100 is available, I am sure there are
    enough users that "upgrade".

    Thomas
     
    Thomas, Aug 15, 2006
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  18. Delurking for a moment. ;) I'm a old Minolta girl myself (start with
    an SRT-101 and currently own a 7D). However I would NOT recommend
    picking up a used 5D at this point. The issue is repair. I havn't
    seen any formal announcments of this but its all over various Minolta
    forums. Sony is not repairing 7D (and I believe 5D) cameras sent to
    them for repair. They state the there are no parts (Minolta supposedly
    did not supply them with any). While they are being quite generous in
    their buy back offers to ORIGINAL and IN WARANTY owners buying a used
    5D would essentially be like buying a disposable camera. :(

    Six months ago I'd have told you to buy a 7D and be happy (I adore mine
    and it can be had for under $1k now) but that was before Sony got
    involved and things got ugly. If you want to stay with the Minolta
    mount try out the A100 and see if it will work for you. I'm currently
    sitting on the fence seeing if Sony will release a 7D replacement
    (which the A100 isn't).

    Christina
     
    Christina Robertson, Aug 15, 2006
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  19. Padu

    Thomas Guest

    Good point. I thought part of the original announcement was that Sony
    takes over the service, which I would read to include repairs. And at
    least in Europe there are consumer friendly laws stating that the
    manufacturer has to provide repair services within a "reasonable"
    lifetime. But if they don't it, that might not be much help.

    Not that I would expect my 5D to die any time soon anyway. Concerning
    the original poster, I would still consider buying it for a really good
    price, that means anything under 400 bucks.
    I know that this is like reading coffee leafs, but I think the "100" is
    a free give away. Obvious an A200 or A300 would fit in very nicely with
    the naming scheme. If Sony is serious, there could even be a full frame
    version at some point.

    Thomas
     
    Thomas, Aug 15, 2006
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  20. Padu

    Padu Guest


    And what type/model of camera is it?
     
    Padu, Aug 15, 2006
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