help with an old minolta srt 201 slr camera - shot one roll details in a table

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Jay, Apr 16, 2004.

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    Jay Guest

    Hello,
    I bought a Minolta SRT 201 camera a few weeks back. It came with
    2 lenses and a 2X teleconvertor (vivitar). 50mm minolta 1:1.4 and a
    200mm Hannimex 1:4.5 lens. It was a sweet deal for $20 at a moving
    sale. The lady said that the camera is in good condition. I took
    some pictures with it the other day and I noticed that most of them
    were blank (negative), the others being excellent prints. It uses a
    PX-625 mercury battery, unable to find one I used my Norwood director
    light meter (another dinosaur).
    I wanted to test the camera and flash (not in the deal). Wanted
    to calculate the guide number. All pictures were shot indoor with my
    5 year old son sitting in a chair. I streched a measuring tape from
    the chair to the camera set on a tripod so that I know how far the
    subject was. All shots used a flash on the camera. It was a Vivitar
    330AF set at 100ASA, 80mm. For the first shot subject 7' away, the
    flash asked me to set the f stop of the camera at f=16. But I set the
    stop at 8. More details in my table below. If I used a teleconvertor
    then the column would have '2X'. Shutter speed was set at 'X sync'.
    In the remarks column good print means the picture was perfect. Blank
    means - the negative was white, washed out. On a few of the last
    shots I used a no name secondary flash as a slave, about 3' away by
    the side of the subject, flash ran on 2 AA batteries. I also left a
    note on the pack where I processed my roll which stated that 'I am
    testing my flash and camera, please dont correct for mistakes, print
    them as it is. Of the 26 exposed from a 24 roll, I had 12 prints.
    The ones printed were excellent. It was not too dark or too bright.
    Just perfect. I made sure that the flashes were ready before every
    picture.
    Looking at the table I concluded that if I use the 200mm lens
    alone or with a 2X convertor the fstop should be 4.5; with 50mm lens
    fstop should be 8.0; if I used a 50mm with a 2X convertor then I set
    the fstop at 5.6 or make sure my subject is 11' away. (For indoor
    shots with a flash - similar to test conditions)
    Will someone shed some light. I am planning to shoot another
    roll outdoors, on a bright sunny day, under partial shade to see why
    some of the shots are washed out in the negative. Thanks!
    Jay

    Lens Telecon Shutter F-stop Feet Sl fla Remarks

    200 No x 8 7 No Good print
    200 No x 8 9 No Blank
    200 No x 8 11 No Blank
    200 No x 8 13 No Blank
    200 No x 8 15 No Blank

    50 2X x 5.6 5 No Good
    50 2X x 5.6 7 No Blank
    50 2X x 5.6 9 No Blank
    50 2X x 5.6 10 No Good
    50 2X x 5.6 11 No Good
    50 2X x 5.6 13 No Good

    50 No x 5.6 15 No Good
    50 No x 5.6 6 No Blank
    50 No x 5.6 8 No Blank
    50 No x 5.6 10 No Blank
    50 No x 5.6 12 Good

    200 2X x 8 8 No Blank
    200 2X x 4.5 8 No Good
    200 2X x 4.5 6 No Good
    200 2X x 4.5 10 No Blank

    50 2X x 5.6 10 yes Good
    50 2X x 5.6 8 yes Blank
    50 2X x 5.6 7 yes Good
    50 2X x 5.6 6 yes Good
    50 2X x 5.6 5 yes Blank
    50 2X x 5.6 4 yes Blank
     
    Jay, Apr 16, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest


    Use slide film next time and remove all doubt.

    Use slide film for these kinds of tests. Narrower latitude, and no
    changes in processing.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 16, 2004
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    Mike Guest

    I bought a Minolta SRT 201 camera a few weeks back. It came with
    <big snip>

    Does the shutter fire and aperture stop-down every time? Check this
    without film by just looking at the lens.
     
    Mike, Apr 16, 2004
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    Bob Hickey Guest

    Try opening the back, setting the lens at it's widest opening and firing
    @ the sync. speed, 1/60? If you see a perfect circle of light thru the back
    of the lens, all should be well. Try it again @ f 16. to make sure. The
    shutter may be slowing down due to age. Also, most old flashes have triggers
    that go bad after a while. Become intermittent. I would tend to blame the
    flash before the camera.
    Bob Hickey
     
    Bob Hickey, Apr 16, 2004
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  5. Consider getting the camera cleaned, light meter and shutter checked
    and calibrated, and the battery converted to use new silver oxide
    batteries. Cost runs about $100, but you get a great working, simple
    to use, mechanical shutter camera. The cds cells aren't available new
    anymore but there is a good supply of used one and many shops have
    them from parts cameras.

    Good luck.
     
    Scott M. Knowles, Apr 17, 2004
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    Jay Guest

    Thanks Bob for your reply. I did check the shutter speed and the
    aperture several times before I bought the camera and after I
    purchased it. All shutter speeds work well, and the aperture works
    the way it is supposed to. (I have seen old cameras that have a bad
    aperture and one that had bad shutter screen. Exposures longer than
    1/4 second was more like 1/60 second with that camera.)The flash is
    relatively new about 2-3 years old. The flash is hardly used. As
    Alan suggested I might have to shoot a roll of slide film. Having
    spent $20 to buy this camera I hate to spend $100 to have it tuned. I
    will keep you guys posted once I shoot another roll.
    Jay
     
    Jay, Apr 20, 2004
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    Jeff Guest

    Looking at the table I concluded that if I use the 200mm lens
    It's been a long time since I tried a teleconverter, but as I recall the
    exposure compensation for a 2x converter should be two f-stops, not one.
     
    Jeff, May 4, 2004
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  8. First mistake.

    Throw this crap away and get a REAL camera!
     
    Michael Scarpitti, May 4, 2004
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  9. Listen to Mike - he knows that the only camera he can rely on is his bright
    pink Barbie 110. As long as someone reminds him to press the flash button,
    that is.

    The main problem with the SRT is not that it's a bad camera, it's that a
    repair to it will cost you more than a replacement. In your position,
    assuming that you like the camera, I'd go to KEH and hunt up another one.

    Mike
     
    Mike Lipphardt, May 4, 2004
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  10. Yup, don't buy anything designed and made by Minolta. Buy a Leica R instead,
    as they have nothing to do with Minolta. Whatsoever.
     
    Martin Francis, May 4, 2004
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