Help with choosing a system

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Mikelle, Jan 8, 2005.

  1. Mikelle

    Mikelle Guest

    Hi, all! I'm a (somewhat) newbie ready to dive into the fascinating
    yet expensive world of SLRs and am hoping you can help me out with a
    major decision.

    Before I get too deep, I'm trying to decide on a system (Nikon, Canon,
    etc...) that will allow me the most flexibility with the least cost. I
    presently have a Canon EOS Rebel G, but am told that the accessories
    aren't as interchangable as I would like.

    I need a good system that offers a multitude of interchangable lenses,
    filters, etc..., that fit a wide range of camera bodies, from an older
    manual SLR to maybe even a DSLR. Too much to ask? I don't know...
    Any suggestions?
    Mikelle, Jan 8, 2005
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  2. Leica has introduced a digital back that will fit the R-8 and R-9 film
    bodies. Most of the Leica-R lenses are usable on a wide variety of
    older Leica reflex models.
    uraniumcommittee, Jan 8, 2005
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  3. Mikelle

    RSD99 Guest

    Stick with your Canon ...
    RSD99, Jan 8, 2005
  4. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    If you were starting out I'd suggest a Nikon F80/N80 SLR, then you could buy a
    Nikon D70 or something later and the lenses would fit. However, you already have
    a Canon SLR. So you are best to stick with that until you go digital.
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  5. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    Unfortunately, the Digital Module R was put back in it's release date to
    some time later in the first quarter of this year.
    That much was anounced at Photokina last year.
    It is a shame, as they were even "beaten to the punch" on a digital
    M-mount rangefinder by Cosina working with with Epson, resulting in the
    Epson RD-1.
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  6. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    If starting from scratch, I personaly would suggest going with Pentax.
    Pentax seem to have not abandonned interoperability with old (in K
    mount) manual focus and apeture lenses, as well as having a decent
    line-up of modern autofocus lenses.

    You already seem to have Canon EOS gear, so a cheaper road would be the
    Digital Rebel or EOS 10D or 20D.
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  7. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    Anything Leica will require mortgaging your house or selling your children to
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  8. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    Of course, not to mention that it would probably be released in limited
    numbered series of less than a thousand and would become an instant
    photo-fetish item.
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  9. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    Replying to myself is silly, but I couldn't resist this.

    Perhaps Cosina (Voightlaender) will beat Leica with their own version of
    the Digital Module R?

    That would make me laugh my arse off.
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  10. Mikelle

    BillB Guest

    And our uranium parasite (denser than lead) having released
    another of his trademark, patented troll-bombs, and is now leaning
    back, giggling, rocking from side to side, eyes rolling, drooling
    and fissioning orgasmically. You (and others) have made its day. :)
    BillB, Jan 9, 2005
  11. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    I only see peoples replies to his post, as he is safely in my killfile. Signal
    to noise ratio is dropped a little now. ;-)
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  12. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    God forbid (I'm sure) that any-one replies to messages that you don't
    aprove of.

    Leica is planning to release a digital back for their R8 and R9 SLR
    cameras (eventualy).
    Why is that so hideously unpalatable for you to read?

    The likelyhood that it will be extremely expensive compared to buying
    either a Nikon, Canon, Kodak or Konica-Minolta DLSR camera is very, very

    Why does that get your proverbial knickers in a twist?
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  13. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    The "uranium parasite" is our newest resident troll. There is history here dude.
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  14. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    snipping out the context of what I wrote is not exactly a nice way of
    replying to a post.
    You appear to be as bad as the person you are criticising.

    Why does the iminant release of the Leica Digital Module R offend you so
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  15. Mikelle

    BillB Guest

    eh? I didn't disapprove of your reply, nor did I disapprove of
    grol's, whose mgs. I replied to. Note that at the time I said:

    that the only replies in uranium's branch were yours and grol's.
    So "You" referred to grol, and "others" being plural wouldn't really
    make sense referring only to you. It didn't. I included my own
    soon-to-be-added reply in the mix and it referred to the two of us.
    So I'm as guilty or as innocent as you. :)

    It isn't. I don't own any Leica equipment but have a certain
    fondness for the brand as the first "real" camera I used (after a
    Kodak Brownie) was a borrowed Zorki with a pair of lenses, one made
    by Leica (a Summicron if I'm not mistaken), and the other a Russian
    lens. I don't recall if the latter was a Zorki or not.

    As you should realize by now, it didn't. Post the above anywhere
    you wish, but this ng would be better served if it wasn't in reply
    to a troll. Any kind of reply, whether positive or negative only
    encourages them, and I have to admit that I'm also guilty of not
    taking my own advice. You may not be familiar with the fissioning
    fool, but notice that its reply to the message asking for a
    "flexibility with the least cost." solution was the pricey Leica
    equipment. No innocent mistake, that, as you will surely see if you
    take note of its future messages. And I'm not sure, but when I was
    very, very young, I may have worn knickers a time or two. But if so,
    I never got them in a twist, neither literally nor proverbially. :)
    BillB, Jan 9, 2005
  16. Mikelle

    dj_nme Guest

    What Grol wrote about the probable cost of the Leica Digital Module R is
    in all probability %100 true.
    Leica is definitely not known for making inexpensive equipment.

    Your (BillB) response to my reply made you seem like a bit of a twit.

    If Mikelle (the OP) owned a Leica R8 or R9 (plus lenses and
    accessories), then just maybe the (still aparently vapourware) Digital
    Module would be the best way to get a DSLR that could use his(?)
    existing lenses.

    My direct reply to Mikelle's post was to point out that a Digital EOS
    camera (Rebel, 10D or 20D) would be the cheapest way to get a body
    compatible with his existing Canon EOS lenses.
    dj_nme, Jan 9, 2005
  17. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    Thanks for the accusation. You must be new here. Snipping was to only clarify
    specific parts of your post. This is common practise in netiquitte. I also
    It doesn't. Why do you *presume* it does?

    Uranium often posts redicious posts. Telling a novice to buy a Leica is kinda
    over-the-top isn't it? Like telling somebody to just go buy a Lexus or a
    Mercedes. In context of what the OP wrote, Uraniums reply was unhelpful, as per
    usual. Sure given infinite budget there are plenty of options to consider, but a
    Leica is not a realistic recommendation for a novice. At least this time he
    wasn't blantantly rude.
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  18. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    That's why it was not considered a particularly *helpful* response by Uranium.
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  19. Mikelle

    grol Guest

    practise in netiquitte.

    Ooops. Make that *address* only the parts I quoted.
    grol, Jan 9, 2005
  20. Mikelle

    black dragon Guest

    Go with RSD99;'s suggestion... the Canon EOS lenses are usable on their
    digital line, th elens quality is one of the best, and does not come
    with the mind blowing expense that Leica likes to tack on. Nikon
    digitals suck power, and quality wise just are not there anymore (i
    dumped my Nikon gear, only use Canon now). Pentax lenses are a bit slow
    for my liking. You have invested in a good starter system already
    black dragon, Jan 9, 2005
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