Help with what equipment is needed

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by MikeS, Mar 3, 2006.

  1. MikeS

    MikeS Guest

    I'm a member of a camera club and we are going to get a digital projector,
    to use in competitions in my camera club.. We are still using a slide
    projector but as the number of people taking slide photographs is dwindling
    we decided to make a start on digital projection.

    There is an argument as to whether we need a high end lap top or a basic
    one. We all agree we should get the best projector we can afford . we have
    about £1600 at the moment. but some of the members want to get a lap top at
    about £600 and some At £350 to 400. This set-up will only be used at the
    club for digital slide shows( images show for the duration say 3 minutes at
    a time for a Judge to mark. and perhaps some audio visual shows( slide show
    on the run with music), so does not need a large hard drive or I suspect a
    lot of ram (say 256 to 512 k will suffice). A processor or say 1000 MHz and
    a DVD player.

    Please could you give me some pointers and if you can some authorities I
    can quote, as my club committee meet on Monday next.

    Regards Mike Sansom
     
    MikeS, Mar 3, 2006
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    G Hardy Guest

    A low end laptop will do the trick - it's the projector you need to spend
    your money on.
     
    G Hardy, Mar 3, 2006
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    Ed Chilada Guest

    It'll need a helluva lot more than 512k...
     
    Ed Chilada, Mar 3, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    ....and a spare bulb.....
     
    :::Jerry::::, Mar 3, 2006
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    MikeS Guest

     
    MikeS, Mar 4, 2006
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    RobDee Guest

    I think you missed Ed´s humor Tony. Looking at the RAM figure - "512k"
    Probably not possible to buy a machine with such limited memory nowadays.

    Rob
     
    RobDee, Mar 4, 2006
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  7. MikeS

    MikeS Guest

    Please explain .bearing mind we are talking laptops and the need for a high
    or low end machine and the necessity or not of loads of memory. As to the
    humour I afraid its lost on me, sorry.

    As to the comment "its not possible to get a machine with such limited
    memory (256k)". That statement does not square with what is currently on
    offer. Of course there are a lot of machines with loads of memory but thes
    are generaly are very high end machines.

    noise filter applied Regards Mike S
     
    MikeS, Mar 4, 2006
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    Trev Guest

    Change the K to a M
     
    Trev, Mar 4, 2006
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    Trev Guest

    Change the K to a M
     
    Trev, Mar 4, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Kb KB Mb MB takes your pick !....

    Can you even buy 256kb or 256KB of memory in a form that could be
    installed on recent era laptop?
     
    :::Jerry::::, Mar 4, 2006
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    Ed Chilada Guest

    Because 512k is rather a lot less (1024x in fact), than 512mb.
     
    Ed Chilada, Mar 4, 2006
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  12. Who makes Laptops or any PC with less than 256MEG of ram these days ,
    never mind 256K ?


    Gary MacKenzie
    Video Editor
     
    Gary MacKenzie, Mar 4, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    I'm reminded of what Bill Gates famously said:

    “640K ought to be enough for anybody.â€

    ....But then, again, he also said:

    “WWW? Nice toy, but what a waste of time.â€
     
    Tony Morgan, Mar 4, 2006
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    MikeS Guest

    Thats why I'm going over gradualy to Linux.. bearing that in mind, I
    suppose, he would say the same about that - but he would would'nt he!

    MikeS
     
    MikeS, Mar 4, 2006
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    MikeS Guest

    Tony,
    There is more in heaven and earth Horatio than the imagination can conceive.
    But, it seems, for Microsoft it came to nix. IBM where not amused with Bill
    and are now promoting Linux, I suppose to get back at him.

    Its a funny old world.and I feel the next operating system from Microsoft is
    going to be more top heavy as will the new set of office programs at of
    course at extra costs to all and sundry requiring more memory and much
    larger hard drives Bearing this in mind we are now in the scenario of
    diminishing returns and MS will go for the rental route. a bit like the
    telephone rental. Imagine how many direct debits he will have on his books
    it will need a world Bill Gates bank to manage it.

    Whereas Linux can run on low overheads and the office suit is free. This
    will as it did the French government cause industry to bite the bullet and
    convert to Linux. Unless Tony is given a knighthood by Bill.

    MikeS
     
    MikeS, Mar 4, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    Not in commercial enterprises. The cost of getting (say) 4-hour support
    for Linux is quite high. Nor is getting effective support staff
    inexpensive. Unlike (for example) Solaris where support is far more
    easily and economically provisioned - though, like Windows Enterprise
    solutions, commercial enterprises have to pay up-front for Solaris
    license(s) - but which include limited (but extendable) support..
    While that certainly is so, 95% of office automation legacy systems in
    the business/commercial sector are Microsoft. All IT business training
    is in Microsoft Office, and the cost of training staff on something else
    is an overhead that enterprises don't want to take on board. There was a
    time where there were four major office automation players - but that
    time has long since passed.

    I'm not defending Microsoft - just stating it the way it is.
     
    Tony Morgan, Mar 5, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    [ re Windows vs. Linux ]
    Just to clarify, there are free Office suits available to run under
    Windows, Open Office for example is available for both Windows and
    Linux.

    Not that I'm supporting MS or Windows, indeed IMO the next OS release
    will do nothing to stop the drift towards Linux - as for video, roll
    on MainActor (or Cinelerra), perhaps one day Sony media will port a
    version Vegas...
     
    :::Jerry::::, Mar 5, 2006
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  18. MikeS

    MikeS Guest

    Tony,

    Whilst that may be true, It is surprising that anyone graduating in IT
    should just be a one book man (Microsoft) where are all the bods who
    understand open sourse?

    I wonder how many who are helping to develop Linux there are around?

    A head count could russle up quite few who could keep linux systems going
    with out all the attention Ms products require. Now is the time to change
    over to Linux , when the new MS operating system comes on line the clever
    chaps in IT will still have to relearn that.

    Also you didnt nention the fact that Linux servers are very popular I take
    it the same MS acolites maintain these without any trouble?

    I feel the change has to be made some time, and now is as good as any.

    Also the French government have managed to convert to Linux (Mandriva)and
    are possibly going to save a lot of money.

    Regards MikeS
     
    MikeS, Mar 5, 2006
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    Trev Guest

    The ECDL and most of Cleait are MS based. Its hardly IT more Office
    practice
     
    Trev, Mar 5, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <>, Trev
    I think the context here was MS server technologies and MSE
    certifications. AFAIK ECDL and CLAIT are aimed at the Mrs Pringles.

    But indeed, the fact that they're MS based illustrates the retraining
    costs that are likely involved even when migrating to Linux
    workstations. Is there a recognised training/qualification for Linux
    environment office automation? I'd wager that an advert down the Job
    Centre for a worker experienced in Linux office automation wouldn't get
    many applications.
     
    Tony Morgan, Mar 5, 2006
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