High qual 19" CRT advice sought (for PC)

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Dave Ello, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. Dave Ello

    Dave Ello Guest

    Hi all,

    Time to retire the NEC Multisync 6FGp 21" which has been a great workhorse
    over the years. I'm wanting to reclaim some desk real estate as well so
    will be replacing it with a 19" CRT. I want a CRT for better than 1200x1024
    res. and colour management reasons, It will be used 50% for image editing
    and 50% for software development/spreadsheet use etc.

    I've read a number of reviews on the following (in the current order of
    preference):

    - Viewsonic P95f+B: seems to offer excellent sharpness, colour definition
    and is deemed a "pro" monitor (VGA to 2048x1536)
    - Philips 109B50: appears to be midrange but has good sharpness and colour
    - NEC FE991SB: excellent colour but not the sharpest kid on the block for
    text editing

    I am not price sensitive on this - they're all around $500 but I just want
    the best, even if it's twice that (other brand suggestions - avail. in
    Aust?). Called Sony Australia today and they tell me that they are no
    longer bringing in any CRT monitors (!!).

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Cheers,
    Dave (Sydney)
    P.S. Tips on good dealers would be appreciated.
     
    Dave Ello, Dec 30, 2004
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    Ryadia Guest

    I use G90f+ Viewsonics (4 of them) at home and at work. Like you, price was
    not my first consideration but these monitors are brilliant to calibrate
    colour with a Radeon card and acceptable in price. I wouldn't change them
    for the more expensive model even if I thought it was better (which it is
    not).

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Dec 30, 2004
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  3. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 957DF that I paid $400 for about 8 months
    ago. It is very easy to calibrate using a Spyder and OptiCAL (you can
    modify the individual RGB levels) and I am very happy with the image
    quality.

    —Michael
     
    Michael Strasser, Dec 30, 2004
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    Rob Guest

    Rob, Dec 30, 2004
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  5. Dave Ello

    Ken Oaf Guest

    Mitsubishi are fine when they are working. I had a 17" one that cost me $750
    and broke down 7 times within the warranty period. They refused to replace it,
    instead opting to repair it each time. I ended up getting so sick and tired of
    it I chucked it out on a council cleanup day with a month of warranty still
    remaining.

    I will never, ever again buy ANY product with the name Mitsubishi on it and I
    will warn people against buying them until the day I die.
     
    Ken Oaf, Dec 30, 2004
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  6. Dave Ello

    Bazza Guest

    That's a bit harsh. You had a lot of trouble with just 1 monitor but I probably
    would have done the same.

    I've got 2 19'' Mitsubshi's and they are both working just fine.

    The PC I'm writing this reply from has a Diamond Plus 93SB ... the newest of the
    2 monitors.

    The 1st monitor did blow a transistor a few months after I brought it. Cost Mitsubshi
    Australia $2.50 for a new transistor and $122 for labour and pickup/return !!!!!

    Note -- Mitsubishi monitors are really NEC electronics with a Sony CRT.

    Cheers
    Barry...
     
    Bazza, Dec 30, 2004
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    Ryadia Guest

    Note -- Mitsubishi monitors are really NEC electronics with a Sony CRT.

    Cheers
    Barry...

    FWIW... Nikon are a Mitsubishi subsiduary!!

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Dec 30, 2004
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    Henrik Tived Guest

    I am kind of with Ken here, I too have two Diamondtrons 19" and one of them
    is a bitch and have spend too much time with the tech - they offered to
    exchange it, but for a lessor model! that was not what I had expected, this
    was my fifth Mitsubshi monitor! However the other one is OK! so I guess I am
    torn!

    :)

    Henrik

    That's a bit harsh. You had a lot of trouble with just 1 monitor but I
    probably
    would have done the same.

    I've got 2 19'' Mitsubshi's and they are both working just fine.

    The PC I'm writing this reply from has a Diamond Plus 93SB ... the newest of
    the
    2 monitors.

    The 1st monitor did blow a transistor a few months after I brought it. Cost
    Mitsubshi
    Australia $2.50 for a new transistor and $122 for labour and pickup/return
    !!!!!

    Note -- Mitsubishi monitors are really NEC electronics with a Sony CRT.

    Cheers
    Barry...
     
    Henrik Tived, Dec 31, 2004
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    googlegroups Guest

    want

    Is this the same as the 109B5 ? (5, not 50)

    I purchased my 109B5 for around $340 from MSY in Melbourne a few months
    ago. They now have it for $315.

    Just letting you know in case they are the same, and you're planning to
    pay $500 for one of them. :)
     
    googlegroups, Dec 31, 2004
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    Ken Oaf Guest

    In that case, BUY CANON!!!! ;-)
     
    Ken Oaf, Dec 31, 2004
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    reg-john Guest

    I have a Sony Trinitron G400 19inch CRT for sale if you want it.

    Max res 1600x1200 @ 75hz, almost 4 years old, easily the best monitor ive
    used.

    email if you are interested. (remove 3333)
     
    reg-john, Jan 1, 2005
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  12. Dave Ello

    Ken Oaf Guest

    Price?
     
    Ken Oaf, Jan 1, 2005
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  13. Dave Ello

    reg-john Guest

    i suppose 400 bucks would be fair? cost me 1100 new, but it really is a
    fantastic monitor.
     
    reg-john, Jan 1, 2005
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    Don Guest

    Fellas, when measuring the monitor size, where is the measurement taken and
    do all the companies use the same measurement so I can be sure of getting
    the same 19" as one brand against another. Also, I have used viewsonic and
    was pretty rapt with it so was looking and going that way again. Does
    anybody here have experience with a viewsonic? With respect to second hand
    monitors, is there anyway of testing them to see if they hold colour etc as
    I notice my various monitors used over the years change after a few hours of
    continuos use etc. Hence I suppose the need to wait before using Adobe
    Gamma. However, this leads me to thinking how can I test a second hand
    monitor to see if the phosphors or whatever are fine. In other words, give
    us the good oil on buying a second hand monitor. Looking forward to words of
    wisdom as always.

    regards

    Don
     
    Don, Jan 1, 2005
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    reg-john Guest

    Don it would be hard to get as 100% test of a used monitor, but ive used a
    Spyder OptiCAL with my sony for the alst three years, and the last 2 years
    have required no re-calibration. So the monitor msut have settled to a
    certain point and is not varying.
     
    reg-john, Jan 1, 2005
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    Ryadia Guest

    The drift in colour and brightness when a monitor is running is because the
    High frequency transformer called the 'fly-back' is either suffering from
    heat stress or faulty. They put out 20,000 plus volts and are quite
    problematical.

    The cost of replacing one is such that only expensive monitors warrant the
    expense and they probably have stable fly-backs in the first place! Monitors
    are measured diagonally across the picture tube so allow some 'lost
    dimension' for the bezel and glass of the tube. Typically the viewing area
    (diagonal) of a 19" monitor is about 17.5 to 18 inches.

    If you are going to buy a second hand monitor for photo editing and you
    don't know it's history... Well the kindest thing I can say is don't. I use
    Viewsonic 'Graphics series" monitors exclusively because they are easy to
    get and in current production. I'd probably use Sony's if they still made
    them. Anything else and you are asking for trouble, In my opinion, $400 for
    a known history Sony that is working well is a bargain. What's holding you
    back?

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Jan 2, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    But we're talking about a monitor that is "almost four years old".

    How long will it keep working well enough for critical image editing?

    Peter
     
    Peter, Jan 2, 2005
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    Don Guest

    Thanks as always. Will probably settle on a new Viewsonic. Ryadia
    mentioned the Graphics series. Any other views?

    regards

    Don
     
    Don, Jan 2, 2005
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  19. Dave Ello

    Ryadia Guest

    Probably another 3 years. Sony's are the monitor others are measured by.

    Doug
     
    Ryadia, Jan 2, 2005
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    reg-john Guest

    Pretty much. Im not really into ripping anyone off, if i had my way id keep
    both. In fact im leaning towards keeping the g400 and selling the g420, i
    prefer it.

    So its really up to you if yo want it, but if you do happen to find a better
    CRT on the market let me know, becuase ill buy it :)
     
    reg-john, Jan 2, 2005
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