Hobby or obsession?

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by DD, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. DD

    DD Guest

    Three weeks off over the silly season gives you enough time to reflect
    on all sorts of things and in some cases to see things for what they
    truly are.

    Over the past week or so I had what I suppose you could call an epiphany
    of my own. I looked into one of my cupboards and realised with sickening
    horror, just how much time and money I have sunk into what is really
    only a hobby for me, and also how I could have spent that time and money
    doing other things that are probably a lot more meaningful to me and I
    suppose the universe too.

    10 cameras, 15 lenses, 6 bags, tripods, lights, flashes, stands,
    bellows, adaptors, backdrops, memory cards and devices to read them,
    Flashtrax, scanners, bulk film loaders, etc, etc. 6 years of what I can
    only call "acquisition illness". Lord only knows how many hours I have
    spent on the internet reading, researching, replying to posts on this
    forum and on the phone to prospective buyers and sellers. All so I can
    do one thing: take pictures.

    Enough.

    I have decided that I don't need all this "baggage", so I am in the
    process of purging myself of most of it and I will retain only a few
    items so that I can still enjoy taking the occasional photograph. As for
    the internet and this group? Expect to see a lot less of me in the
    future (I can hear the cheers from certain quarters already). Life's too
    short to spend all your time on one thing...
     
    DD, Jan 11, 2006
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  2. Dallas! - Real glad you're back.....I've got a problem. I can make scans
    with my new scanner, but I don't know how to save them. It lets me save the
    correction steps, but not the finished picture. IOW, it scans, lets me make
    a "final scan", lets me correct the image in a dozen different ways, and
    then, when I want to save the new, corrected image, it says click of "master
    something or other" and it gives me a short list. One of these items is
    "save" when I click on it, it saves the steps I used to make the correction
    to the image, but it doesn't save the new image.....I could care less about
    the steps....What I want it the new image that I have cleaned up, so I can
    import it into Photoshop, or just keep it on my hard disk......How do I do
    this?
    Bill Graham
     
    William Graham, Jan 11, 2006
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  3. DD

    Mark² Guest

    Are you serious, William?
    -Or have you been at the happy juice again???
    :)
    Methinks you're playing with Dallas!
     
    Mark², Jan 11, 2006
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  4. DD

    Mark² Guest

    So what are you keeping, and what's for "purge"?
     
    Mark², Jan 11, 2006
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  5. DD

    Mark² Guest

    If you're (generic "you're") not at least a little obsessive about a hobby,
    you're not as likely to grow or excel in it.

    I make no claims of great talent (wish I could), but my moderate level of
    "obsession" with the hobby has definitely helped me improve. I'll never be
    a creative master, but I want to keep growing and learning. Hobbies can
    often become burdensome...like the scrap-booker I knew whose entire living
    space slowly became almost entirely devoted to storage for her sCRAPbook
    doo-dads. :) Pretty soon it became overwhelming and was no longer fun.
    She dumped everything.

    (Unsolicited advice section below...)
    :)
    There's no rule that says you have to be passionate about one hobby forever.
    For me, my enthusiasm fluctuates from high to low throughout the year, but
    it never goes away, and its easily rekindled by a bit of travel.

    Find something you love and dive in...but don't be too quick to dump :most
    of your gear." Most photogs benefit very little from having 10 cameras, and
    I have no doubt you could dump a lot of stuff, yet still have everything you
    need for that future moment when you get new inspiration. Just as your
    enthusiasm has waned, it can return just the same way--perhaps with even
    more gusto than ever. Sometimes all that's needed is a break, and the new
    attitudes during that break can turn into a new beginning at some point. It
    never hurts to pare back to the basics of what made us love it in the
    beginning.

    2 cents...
    -Mark
     
    Mark², Jan 11, 2006
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  6. DD

    DD Guest

    I start in photoshop and use the File > Import command to bring up the
    Minolta scanning dialog. Once the scan is completed the Minolta plug in
    disappears and the picture is left in Photoshop from where you can go
    anywhere with it.
     
    DD, Jan 11, 2006
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  7. DD

    DD Guest

    It's a case of "less is more". I think I have reached a point where I
    know enough about photography to get more or less what I want using
    whatever is available to me. I can always borrow stuff if I really need
    to.

    I am still very interested in the craft, but I have decided to put the
    equipment buying frenzy behind me. There was a point last year where I
    was spending close to $500 a month on stuff I barely use. If I saw it, I
    wanted it. Vini, vidi, vici (or however they spell it).

    I've put almost all my AF equipment up for sale, except the D70 and 18-
    70mm DX lens. Already sold the F100 and 17-35mm f/2.8. Got a lot of
    interest in the 70-200mm VR but no one with the money yet.

    I will probably keep my F2 and some of the MF lenses (16mm, 24mm, 35mm,
    50mm, 105mm and 180mm). Definitely keeping the Leica M6 and M3 and their
    respective lenses (3). If I can get a decent offer for my D70 I will
    most likely use the proceeds to get a D200 which will at least meter
    with the manual focus Nikkors I keep.

    The rest is going (or gone)! Want some? ;-)
     
    DD, Jan 11, 2006
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    Matt Clara Guest

    It's true, one needs balance in all aspects of life, economic included, but
    it's alright to pursue your passion, regardless whether you make a profit
    from it or not. Many many great artists did not support themselves by art
    alone.

    Besides, most of us come here not for photography, per se, but for
    entertainment.
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 11, 2006
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    Jeremy Guest

    Don't fall into the trap of impulsively dumping your equipment, because you
    may miss it later. I was going to dump my film gear when I bought my first
    digital camera, in 1999, and I'm glad that I chose to put the film equipment
    away, rather than jettison it.

    The cost of re-acquiring some of your present stuff may be much more than
    you think. Give it a year, when your head will be clearer, then decide
    whether you really want to throw that equipment overboard.
     
    Jeremy, Jan 11, 2006
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  10. That's my problem - in years gone by I did sell some of my unwanted gear,
    and now I'm on the lookout for replacements. Mainly for sentimental
    reasons, so time isn't a problem. The downside, is that I now keep
    everything period , and my cupboard overflows and I can't get access to
    deeply buried goodies!!

    Time for a sort-out, and rationalisation, again... and, I've discovered
    that 5x4 takes up yet more space than 35mm.
     
    Malcolm Stewart, Jan 11, 2006
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  11. Psssttt!
    You think YOU have too much S*it: I've got to Ebay about 2/3 of what I
    have...

    Hey! Wanna buy a really nice Zorky 3? A Leningrad? How about a nice
    Pextax ES?
    ; )
     
    Chris Loffredo, Jan 11, 2006
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  12. And the reason you are telling us this is.....?
     
    uraniumcommittee, Jan 11, 2006
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    Bob Hickey Guest

    That's a lot? Where's the enlargers, the dedicated computers? Where's the
    boxes of junk you don't know what they are? My feeling is, that any thing
    that's not compulsive, isn't worth doing. Besides if you're one of those
    lucky compulsive people, and do sell your cameras, you'll just be out on the
    golf course twisting the hell of your back. How bout' the track? There's a
    winner. You lose enough, you'll start drinking.Great. It never ends, it
    just changes, and photography is one of the best of 'em. Bob Hickey
     
    Bob Hickey, Jan 11, 2006
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    Mike Guest

    Yes, I always thought you and M.F. had the camera "acquisition" disease!

    My advice: get rid of the equipment that overlaps. For example, you
    don't need 2 35mm SLR systems. You don't need 2 dSLRS.

    After going through a similar stage of acquiring all kinds of crap (
    Yashica TLR, cheap 70s rangefinders, folders, etc) I'm pretty happy with a
    single 35mm system, and a solid 4x5 LF setup. It covers both ends of the
    spectrum for me. I sold much of the crap I bought on FleaBay which is
    where it originally came.

    On that note, there is nothing wrong with spending money on your hobby.
    One of my friends has several drum sets. I asked him why so many and he
    says "I dunno, buying and having several drum sets makes me happy".
     
    Mike, Jan 11, 2006
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    Annika1980 Guest

    I've put almost all my AF equipment up for sale, except the D70 and 18-
    Looks like you are doing more saving than purging. Why do you need 3
    film cameras? The M6 is better than the M3, right? So junk the M3.
    Is the M6 better than the F2? If not, junk the M6 and your Leica
    lenses.

    It seems to me that you need to figure out who you're trying to impress
    with all your gear. Pare it down to two cameras and impress them with
    your photos instead. OK, I know that's a stretch for you, but you've
    gotta dream sometimes.

    I've considered getting rid of the Totally Digital D60, but I keep it
    as backup. I know that as soon as I get rid of it, something will
    happen to my 20D. I rarely use my Fabulous EOS-1V film camera anymore,
    but it is nice to have for the occasional roll of slide film. But I
    could get rid of it and not miss it.

    Like you, I've spent a chunk of change on accessories .... bag,
    tripods, monopod, light meter, flash bracket, diffusers, viewfinder,
    extension tubes, tele-converters, batteries, CF cards, card readers,
    etc. And there are still things I'd like to get even though they'd see
    limited use. Things like a remote transmitter, an extra flash, and
    some studio lighting equipment.

    But the most important to ask yourself before buying any new gear is,
    "Will this help me to take better photos?"
    Same goes for the gear you already own. If it doesn't, get rid of it!
     
    Annika1980, Jan 11, 2006
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  16. DD

    Matt Clara Guest

    Shhh... It's like a suicide note when the person really doesn't want to
    commit suicide! ;-)
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 11, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    I have decided that I don't need all this "baggage", so I am in the
    You're just waiting for someone to say don't do it, take that noose from
    around your neck....
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 11, 2006
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  18. I must have a problem then.....I do exactly the same thing, but when I am
    done. I don't know how to make the Minolta plug in go away, and get back
    into Photoshop. The Minolta plug in has no "next" button, no way to get out
    of it other than to click on the upper right hand corner "X", which just
    throws everything away and brings me back to the Photoshop window, but that
    window doesn't have my picture imported into it, so I am dead and have to
    start all over again. Now there is a "quick scan" part of the Minolta
    software, and I can use this, and store the scan on my hard disk, and then
    get it from Photoshop to work on afterward, so I can get around this
    problem. But if I use the more complex version of the Minolta software, it
    doesn't allow me to save the image anywhere on my hard disk, so I don't know
    how to use that part of the utility. The Minolta software has three
    utilities. The quick-scan, the regular scan, and the batch scan. I haven't
    tried the batch scan yet. I have tried, and can successfully use, the quick
    scan, but the "regular scan" utility is a mystery to me......I can't save my
    work with it.
     
    William Graham, Jan 12, 2006
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  19. Just take a break, Dallas. Go back to simple photography again. Just take a
    camera and one lens, and go out and take some pictures, and don't try to
    conquer the whole world. It sounds to me like you are overwhelmed with
    equipment and staggered by contemplating the cost of it all. You can always
    recover 50% or more of that cost by selling stuff on eBay, so don't worry so
    much about it. Think about all the memories of your kids and pets, and
    family and friends you can get just by taking one camera, and one lens, and
    a few hours of your time..........You don't have to please anybody but
    yourself.
     
    William Graham, Jan 12, 2006
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  20. Yes.....I have three cornets, four trumpets, and a flugelhorn. But I can
    only play one at a time.....
     
    William Graham, Jan 12, 2006
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