How am I going to be able to use my VHS recorders when digital is forced on us?

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Alan Holmes, Jun 9, 2005.

  1. Alan Holmes

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <wWBte.38718$>, Paul
    I should maybe add that IME the only time noise becomes a problem is
    when shooting in low-light situations. You may, however, get artefacts
    (edge-smearing) when shooting, with steady-shot switched on, objects
    that are moving rapidly across the viewing frame - but I would assume
    that your brother wouldn't confuse this with noise.
     
    Tony Morgan, Jun 20, 2005
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  2. Alan Holmes

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Well if he is comparing consumer DV with Digibeta etc., then he is
    correct without any shadow of doubt...
     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 20, 2005
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  3. Alan Holmes

    G Hardy Guest

    Not so much cost as profit.

    If production cost were the only problem, then cassettes would be more
    expensive to buy, but the market won't stand that because of the lower audio
    quality and risk of tapes being eaten by decks.

    Studios would love for cassettes to vanish, as they would then get a much
    higher profit margin.
     
    G Hardy, Jun 23, 2005
  4. Alan Holmes

    G Hardy Guest

    My wife is a nurse at a general hospital, but it doesn't stop patients from
    dying through the incompetence of any of the doctors, nurses or consultants.

    Just because someone is trusted to do a job, it doesn't make them an
    authority on the subject.

    I don't think it's anything at all to do with the DV becoming DVD. I
    routinely produce DVDs that are indistinguishable from their DV source. Once
    I get below 5 mbps then I can tell which is which.

    This is done using two-pass, variable bitrate transcoding from a captured DV
    file. If your brother-in-law is capturing to CBR DVD as the DV stream is
    being sent (encoding the DV stream instead of saving it, i.e. no
    intermediate DV file) then that would go a long way towards establishing why
    he's getting poor results. Let us know what encoder he's using, the bitrates
    and any other methods or parameters he's using, and we'll try and sort it
    out for him ;-)
     
    G Hardy, Jun 23, 2005
  5. Alan Holmes

    G Hardy Guest

    I should maybe add that IME the only time noise becomes a problem is
    But surely that would all be present on the DV source. I may have read it
    wrong, but the BiL is having problems whereby the DV footage isn't noisy,
    but the resulting DVD is.
     
    G Hardy, Jun 23, 2005
  6. Alan Holmes

    G Hardy Guest

    But then his problem is with DV as a format, not with DV as a source for
    DVD.
     
    G Hardy, Jun 23, 2005
  7. Alan Holmes

    G Hardy Guest

    AHA! It's not "noise" on his films...
     
    G Hardy, Jun 23, 2005
  8. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest

    A lot of stuff I got will never be on Cd.


    But here we are relying on something that have not been tested for
    longevity. you keep them on a a hard drive, that can break down, DVDs
    and CDs tend to give up after a few years.
    Memory can corrupt, the most reliable thing I used so far for storing
    stuff is my zip drive and that do not mean it will never corrupt.


    I am going to put some of my stuff onto the computer, but only because I
    want to transfer it to the mini disk for portable use.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  9. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest

    I think he is talking a load of rubbish.
    I presume you will now say that he is some technician or something like
    that.
    Well if he is, then what ever company he works for should replace him./

    DVD cameras are a load of rubbish, you only have to look in video camera
    mags and also on video forums and reviews on the net.

    As I said before, they are fine for just doing a quick video and
    sticking the disk into the DVD player, but if you want to do anything
    else with them, forget it.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  10. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest

    Correct, I have not been doing it for that long as I only went over to
    digital cam corders last year.
    But I am learning fast and have produced some good stuff and transferred
    I to DVD.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  11. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest

    But then the price is different as well.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  12. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest


    Maybe it was at the time, but then the market was not full of formats
    then as it is now.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  13. Alan Holmes

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 26, 2005
  14. Alan Holmes

    Ad C Guest

    But what if it goes wrong before you make copies or what if it got DRM,
    so you can not copy it or if you can copy it, you can only use it on the
    media it was originally on?


    At least with a record you can put it up somewhere and even in 1 hundred
    years it will still be playable, tape will even last for years, I got a
    reel to reel recording which is over 50 years old and it still as clear
    and crisp as the day it was recorded. so digital recording will stay the
    same, but as I said before, will it last?

    Where digital is nice sometimes, I got a digital cam corder and a
    digital camera, well I will do when it is returned from being
    exchanged.I trust the digital camcorder more than the digital camera.
     
    Ad C, Jun 26, 2005
  15. Alan Holmes

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 26, 2005
  16. Alan Holmes

    Spud Guest

    Funny that, what with your Mother leaving the Maternity Hospital with the
    Spawn of Satan instead of her sweet little boy....
     
    Spud, Jun 27, 2005
  17. Alan Holmes

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 27, 2005
  18. Alan Holmes

    Adrian Guest

    LOL, good answer. :)
     
    Adrian, Jun 27, 2005
  19. Alan Holmes

    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    Especially when the drunken troll was talking to himself, about his
    own whore of a mother.
     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 27, 2005
  20. Alan Holmes

    Mike Henry Guest

    In <42c03303$0$62488$>,
    Er, the plural is "media". HTH.
     
    Mike Henry, Jun 27, 2005
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