How to quickly select rectangle

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Robert Montgomery, May 20, 2010.

  1. How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?

    The canvas size exceeds the image size.

    I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
    Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
    image is grabbed.

    So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
    opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image,
    and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the
    far edge of the image.

    Thanks.

    Robert
     
    Robert Montgomery, May 20, 2010
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  2. Robert Montgomery

    Voivod Guest

    You want to select the whole image? Has CTRL-A stopped working in CS3?
    Or selecting the marquee tool, right clicking on the image and clicking
    SELECT ALL from the pop-up? Have these basic functions been removed from
    Photoshop?
     
    Voivod, May 21, 2010
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  3. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    no, it didnt stop - you skipped reading the the OP's second sentence:

    "The canvas size exceeds the image size"
     
    Rainer Latka, May 23, 2010
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  4. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

     
    Joel, May 24, 2010
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  5. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

    I still can't picture what increasing the canvas size has anything to to
    with selecting the whole image.

    BTW, the OP is DEAD so I think we would move to the next question instead?
     
    Joel, May 25, 2010
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  6. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    IMHO Ragnar has both understood the question and answered it correctly.

    And the OP didnt want to waste peoples' precious time reading his thank
    you posting ;-)
     
    Rainer Latka, May 25, 2010
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  7. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

    Who is Ragma and what was the correct answer that both understood?
    And you and I wasting people time fighting something for nothing?
     
    Joel, May 26, 2010
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  8. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

    Oops! I forgot to mention that we don't need any stinky thank you message
    (I often against it), but a message from the OP saying that Ragnar is
    correct and s/he understood as well as having the problem solved would be
    helpful.
     
    Joel, May 26, 2010
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  9. Thanks, Ragnar.

    That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
    areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
    selected when using your technique.

    Robert
     
    Robert Montgomery, May 28, 2010
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  10. Thanks, David. No, most of my rectangles and square are different size.
    With nothing selected, Select > Modify > Feather cannot be selected
    because both Modify and Feather are grayed.

    Robert
     
    Robert Montgomery, May 28, 2010
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  11. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
    long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):

    image > trim

    Rainer
     
    Rainer Latka, May 28, 2010
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  12. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    monochromatic, I should say
     
    Rainer Latka, May 28, 2010
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  13. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

    And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
    come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
    the question?
     
    Joel, May 28, 2010
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  14. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    ok, let me describe my interpretation:

    The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
    that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.

    Ragnar has assumed that the area around the subarea is monochromatic and
    has proposed to use the magic wand to select the outer area and then to
    invert the selection which would leave just the subarea selected. The
    OP's answer was, that the subarea has (some) pixels of the same color as
    the outer area, so the magic wand selects some pixels in the subarea,
    thus invalidating the solution. Other than that, the OP has still not
    given any further clues as to the situation.

    Following that, I have guessed
    a) that the OP wants to select the subarea in order to be able to
    manipulate just it,
    b) that the subarea's borders are parallel to the image's outer borders,
    c) that the outer area is monochromatic.
    In this situation the trim command will eliminate the outer area,
    leaving the subarea for further use.

    If this is not acceptable and the outer area must be retained, I would
    set guides around the subarea (OP: zoom to see the positioning at pixel
    level, then zoom out again to see the complete subarea), then switch on
    the snap function, make sure all feathering is set to zero and finally
    set the selection letting it snap to the guides.

    Rainer
     
    Rainer Latka, May 29, 2010
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  15. Robert Montgomery

    Joel Guest

    That is/was what I read and I understood that s/he wants to select all (
    as I read the OP saying some part of the selection is larger than the
    canvas).

    At this point it seems like the OP is using Crop Tool else I don't know
    why s/he can't control his or her hand. IOW, Cropping will go by the RATIO
    when selecting tool will do whatever the operator wants. And Ctrl-A will
    select from edge-to-edge
    That's the problem, and that's the reason I won't go any further.
    The problem that we don't have any clue what the original photo is and
    exactly what s/he wants to do. Base on the original message

    ====================
    How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?

    The canvas size exceeds the image size.

    I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
    while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
    grabbed.

    So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
    opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
    it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
    edge of the image.

    Thanks.

    Robert
    =============================================

    Q. How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?

    A. Ctrl-A is one of the quickest

    Q. The canvas size exceeds the image size.

    A. Ctrl-A also stand for ARM-Movement so it won't allow going beyond the max
    size.

    Q. I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
    Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
    image is grabbed.

    A. I never used the Snap-To-Guides to know what it's and how it works (I
    have read something about Snap and Guide but only tried part of the whole
    thing to know much about it). And I have no clue of the "too much" and "too
    little"

    Q. So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
    opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
    it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
    edge of the image.

    A. I have no clue what the OP is trying to do (to the photo ore photos)
    As my understanding Photoshop has instroduced the option to snap one image
    to other to perfect match (edge-to-edge) which I have read and probably
    tried once or twice just to have the general idea. But I don't have no use
    of it (or I can get around with my old technique to learn more about it) so
    I can't be able to see what may go wrong besides snapping the right command
    but wrong photo (ratio or size)?

    And I still have no clue what the OP wants.
     
    Joel, May 29, 2010
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  16. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
    said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
    is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
    comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.

    Rereading the original posting, there is yet another simple solution:
    select the rectangular masking tool, set feathering to 0px, make an
    approximate selection, choose Select > Transform Selection, use the
    navigation panel to zoom the image and to move it so one corner plus the
    selection's corner is visible, adjust the selection, navigate to the
    diagonally opposite corner and do the same, hit enter and voilà, a
    perfect selection.

    Rainer
     
    Rainer Latka, May 29, 2010
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  17. Robert Montgomery

    Voivod Guest

    As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:

    "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
    the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
    image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
    get to the far edge of the image."
     
    Voivod, May 29, 2010
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  18. Robert Montgomery

    Voivod Guest

    Or the OP lacks the ability to express himself just like you lack the
    flexibility to admit you could be utterly and completely wrong in your
    interpretation of his barely coherent question.
     
    Voivod, May 29, 2010
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  19. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    So what about the OP's statement:
    To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
    canvas

    and:
    If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
    one select too much?

    All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
    the OP cares to enlighten us

    Rainer
     
    Rainer Latka, May 29, 2010
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  20. Robert Montgomery

    Rainer Latka Guest

    well, I dont think I'm lacking flexibility. I've read his postings
    carefully, tried to interprete the little we know and proposed solutions
    that fit _my_ understanding. If you read the OP's answer to Ragnar's
    suggestion, I think it's obvious that his image does not fill the
    canvas. Why would the OP ask at all, if the task were only to press ctrl-A?

    Rainer
     
    Rainer Latka, May 29, 2010
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