HP Scanjet 3970 and Negative Scans

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Justin Thyme, May 27, 2004.

  1. Justin Thyme

    Justin Thyme Guest

    Has anyone used one of these things for negative scanning and did they get
    decent results? I had opportunity to try one yesterday, and the result was
    nothing short of disgusting. The resulting images had practically no
    colour - they were mostly a dirty shade of purple/brown. No amount of
    playing in photoshop could get the colours anything vaguely like correct -
    essentially the scan is monochrome with a dirty tint. The image was also
    very dotty and had visible lines that stretched the length of the image. I
    did expect better from a midrange scanner. The only part it did get good was
    the black at the edge of the frame. I know the neg is good, because I had
    prints done from it just a couple of days ago. The scanner in question does
    do a beautiful job of reflective scans (prints etc), so I know that it's
    sensor is working properly. Unfortunately I don't have access to slides to
    test it's capabilities with them.
    Also surprising, it didn't appear the software did automatic multiple image
    scans, plus if scanning with anything that uses the twain interface or the
    Windows XP scanner wizard, you don't even get the option of doing a
    transparency scan - the option is only available if scanning with HP's scan
    software.
    I'll be able to try out a canon (not sure of model - probably 5200) soon -
    hopefully it will be better.
     
    Justin Thyme, May 27, 2004
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    skozzy Guest

    I have never scaned a negitive before, but I was wondering if you tried the
    scan with the lid closed then one open and compair the difference. I should
    try out my scanner for the fun of it all, maybe a red background under the
    lid, then blue then green. Then stack the scans.
     
    skozzy, May 27, 2004
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    John Ewing Guest

    I'd be surprised if you had success. A scanner is designed to view an
    opaque image whereas a negative has light passed through it to create an
    image.

    John
     
    John Ewing, May 27, 2004
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  4. Justin Thyme

    Bandi Guest

    I havent used the 3970, but I have the 5470c. When I first got it, I was
    having mucxh the same results.
    I rang HP about it and although they said that they hadn't heard of the
    problem (Which seemed odd
    as there were others reporting the same things on the HP site!), they did
    said there was a firmware update.
    I tried that and it fixed the problem. Both negatives and slides scanned
    correctly. That was win 98.
    Perhaps the 3970 has a similar firmware problem.

    However I was never able to scan above 600 dpi on win98. If I did, the whole
    scan got offset by about a
    quarter of the size and the left quarter was replaced by a black bar, which
    was ironic really as it was the only
    section of the image that was even remotly noise free! Moving to WinXP fixed
    that problem.

    So now the scanner scans "properly", but the results are still far from
    good. Very flat and soft with bad
    noise in dark areas. I wouldn't even consider trying to get a print made
    from one of these scans.

    I'd stay away from HP flatbeds for slide / negative scanning purposes!



    PS - I have a wonderful HP 5470c scanner for sale. Great condition, barely
    used. Works a charm if anyone is interested :)
     
    Bandi, May 28, 2004
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  5. Justin Thyme

    Justin Thyme Guest

    the hp 3970, along with many epson and canon flatbeds, are designed to be
    able to scan negs and slides - they have a lamp in the lid that shines
    through the neg/slide, while the main scanner lamp is turned off.
     
    Justin Thyme, May 28, 2004
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  6. Justin Thyme

    Justin Thyme Guest

    Erm - you don't really know what you're talking about here do you? the hp
    3970 is designed to do negs & slides by having a lamp in the lid that shines
    through the neg/slide. The main scanner lamp is turned off during the
    process.
     
    Justin Thyme, May 28, 2004
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    skozzy Guest

    You are right, I have no idea, I was just popping an idea across.
     
    skozzy, May 28, 2004
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  8. Justin Thyme

    John Ewing Guest

    O.K. - I hadn't realised - things have improved.
    Thanks for the update

    Cheers,
    John
     
    John Ewing, May 29, 2004
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