I'm buying my first digital camera - looking for advice on make & model

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Robert, Aug 28, 2005.

  1. SleeperMan wrote:
    Do you have some references for this? I've been in the habit of simply
    topping up cells when needed, although I have usually let the charge
    complete (according to when the charger witched itself off, not timed
    chargers). Are you saying that a partial recharge will kill the cells
    beyond repair?

    David J Taylor, Aug 28, 2005
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  2. Robert

    grumpy Guest

    In normal Macro mode, the S2 IS does not let me get closer than 12 inches to the subject. You
    cannot engage Super Macro mode in Auto settings. So it is a bit fiddly to use. With the Fuji it
    was very simple.
    grumpy, Aug 29, 2005
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  3. Robert

    Bruce Graham Guest

    AA vs lithium....
    with Li-ion don't forget the bag of proprietary chargers you need to take
    with you on a trip and finding enough AC power points in the room (not a
    problem in the USA though). With AA, you can just take one charger, but
    then spend the night changing batteries in the single charger. I mainly
    see the minuses of both technologies when travelling.

    (wife, 2 bicycles, 350D, powershot, GPS, PDA, 2 UHF radios, 2 cellphones,
    2 headlights, 2 tailights etc.)

    Bruce G
    Bruce Graham, Aug 29, 2005
  4. Does your wife take AAs or Li?

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
    Daniel Silevitch, Aug 29, 2005
  5. Robert

    ASAAR Guest

    Li. Only genuine Stepford Li-Ion PerformaCells provide the
    necessary energy density, and they're non-user replaceable. But as
    with cameras that's not a problem, as most owners choose to upgrade
    to the latest model rather than deal with sending the old model in
    for repairs, bug fixes, firmware upgrades as well as filter and
    battery replacements.
    ASAAR, Aug 29, 2005
  6. Robert

    Bruce Graham Guest

    very high drain and I get to carry the charger.
    Bruce Graham, Aug 29, 2005
  7. Bruce Graham wrote:
    All the more reason a consumer group should be calling for manufacturers
    to support a range of standard Li-ion batteries in the same way as we have
    AAA & AA cells! I'm disappointed no-one in the USA (surely the obvious
    place to start such a campaign) hasn't taken this up.
    David J Taylor, Aug 29, 2005
  8. David J Taylor

    : All the more reason a consumer group should be calling for manufacturers
    : to support a range of standard Li-ion batteries in the same way as we have
    : AAA & AA cells! I'm disappointed no-one in the USA (surely the obvious
    : place to start such a campaign) hasn't taken this up.

    I agree that standardization of many things (not just batteries) would be
    good for us consumers. But many large manufacturers seem to like the idea
    of creating consumer goods with non-standard consumable components so that
    we are forced to purchase from them. Among the most consistant in this is
    companies like Sony. I used to like some of their products but each new
    product has to have something that has to be replaced from time to time
    (like batteries) that are only available from them. And even worse not
    only can't you get the replacement batteries for many of their devices,
    but you can't get an external charger for their rechargeables so your
    device is tied to a power source every time you run out of battery charge.
    :( And unfortunately this idea is becoming popular with many other

    So while I agree that such standardization between manufacturers would be
    a big plus, the trend seems to be in the opposite direction. But one way
    that we (as consumers) could possibly influence a reversal of this trend
    is to avoid (when possible) purchasing any product that requires
    consumable parts (batteries, memory cards, etc) that are not widely
    available from many different sources. If sales fall off attributable to
    this issue it may put pressure on them to come up with a limited number of
    standards across manufacturer lines.



    Randy Berbaum
    Champaign, IL
    Randy Berbaum, Aug 29, 2005
  9. Robert

    Robert Guest

    Thank you all for your replies. Your information was very helpful

    Robert, Aug 29, 2005
  10. Robert

    SleeperMan Guest

    No, of course not. I just said that all lithium cells have electronics
    already in the cell, built-in. So, topping up won't hurt it, since that
    buil-tin electronics will cut off when full. It's just i've heard that in
    Lithium case topping up means the same as full charging, so it counts as one
    charging cycle. Not sure if it's true, though. I can't exactly give you a
    link now, since i've read all this in Elektor Electronics magazine, but i
    guess i could find it, scan it and post it on my web page, if you really
    want to read it. Just reply here if you want it...
    SleeperMan, Aug 29, 2005
  11. Robert

    SleeperMan Guest

    Auto mode is not to be used on S2...if you use auto mode, then it was very
    stupid buying such camera in first place... I never (not with my S1 also)
    did one single shot in auto mode. Note that "P" mode is exatcly same as auto
    with difference that you can (and i do) change all settings when you need.
    SleeperMan, Aug 29, 2005
  12. That's fine. You're saying that internally lithium ion is sensitive, but
    not when packaged for the end user, if I understand correctly. With all
    respect to Elektor, I was looking for an authoritative Internet site....

    David J Taylor, Aug 29, 2005
  13. Robert

    SleeperMan Guest

    Hm...i bet there is such site. It's just a matter of finding it...
    SleeperMan, Aug 30, 2005
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