iMac with EyeTV 250, TV Mini HD caps and aspect probs

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by lampbay, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. lampbay

    lampbay Guest

    EyeTv 250 and TV Mini Hd do a fine job of capturing and recording from
    analog and digital sources. But when encoding using Toast 8, the
    closed captions do not transfer to DVD. I've heard that the only way
    to get cc to record properly is using standalone DVD recorders. Also,
    aspect ratio is fine on the iMac screen and the captions are there but
    when encoding, for example, a Globe Trekker program that is HD 4.3 is
    comes off on DVD playback as a small box in the center of the 4x3
    screen instead of filling the box. Any way to correct these problems?
     
    lampbay, Mar 9, 2007
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    Ken Maltby Guest

    Are there no Apple NG?
     
    Ken Maltby, Mar 9, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    No.. they're not necessary! APples and the software that apple sells is
    soooo good... soo trouble free that support newsgroups are a thing of the
    past!
     
    nappy, Mar 9, 2007
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    lampbay Guest

    No answers there either - no one wants to help, just complain. BTW,
    I've used PC and Mac and Mac does much better video.
     
    lampbay, Mar 10, 2007
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    Ken Maltby Guest

    If so, why this thread?
     
    Ken Maltby, Mar 10, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    iMac with EyeTV 250, TV Mini HD caps and aspect
    probs>,

    To me, it serves as demonstrable proof that Mac does much better
    video.

    YMMV.
     
    Frank, Mar 10, 2007
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    Ken Maltby Guest


    Then you have a solution for these Mac video processing problems?

    You can capture HD in any aspect ratio and create a proper DVD
    with a PC. This thread calls into question the Mac's ability to do so.
    How does that equate to "demonstrable proof that Mac does much
    better video"?

    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Mar 10, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    Much better video than what?
    And how would you know if you can not get yours to work?
    What is better video anyway? Suppose you explain that first.
    I am sure everyone here would be enlightened.
     
    nappy, Mar 10, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    iMac with EyeTV 250, TV Mini HD caps and aspect
    probs>,
    Ken, I hereby resolve to never post a sarcastic comment to any
    newsgroup ever so long as I shall live. You have my word on that.

    In this case, I figured that the "YMMV" would indicate that I was
    kidding. Apparently it didn't suffice.

    In point of fact, the OP should check out the Mac forums for help.

    http://discussions.apple.com/

    Not being a Mac user, that's about the best suggestion that I can
    make. If no one there is willing and/or able to help, well, that's
    life.

    I should have thought that words such as "No answers there either - no
    one wants to help, just complain. BTW, I've used PC and Mac and Mac
    does much better video." would have stood for themselves. I mean, I
    see something fundamentally contradictory, even borderline absurd, in
    that, don't you? I did, which is why I added more absurdity, since the
    thread wasn't going anywhere anyway.
     
    Frank, Mar 11, 2007
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    lampbay Guest

    That's bullxxxx, Ken. I've used multiple PCs, desktop and laptop, with
    Dazzle low-end capture hardware and Pinnacle software, among others,
    none of which would capture captions. And the video quality is nothing
    to compare with the resolution of low-end Mac capture devices. Also,
    Mac software even at the lowest end gives many more options for
    encoding and output than any PC software I've seen from amateur to
    professional grade. If you want to flame Macs, become one of the PC
    trolls at CSMA. Maybe you are already.
     
    lampbay, Mar 12, 2007
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    lampbay Guest

    Thanks for your sarcasm - usenet can always use more of that can't it. :)
    I'm obviously not a pro - I checked the usenet mac user video groups
    and got no help there - thanks for the Apple link where much more info
    is available.
     
    lampbay, Mar 12, 2007
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    lampbay Guest

    Try capturing live or recorded video with Dazzle to a PC using whatever
    software you choose and then try using one of the aforementioned Mac
    capture devices and edit and encode it with Toast, QuickTime Pro,
    iMovie HD or iDVD and you will see and hear what I mean. Have fun
    buying all new hardware and memory just so you can run Vista without
    bogging down.
     
    lampbay, Mar 12, 2007
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    Silly me.
    All along I've been capturing direct via firewire (no converter box needed)
    to my computer (a PC) running Sony Vegas, trimmming as necessary, adding
    titles and other assorted FX and then burning to DVD with Sony's DVD
    Architect.
    I always thought it looked pretty good but now I guess I should've been
    using a Mac instead :)
    Vista isn't wantded or needed as XP PRO SP2 works just fine for me.
    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Mar 12, 2007
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    Frank Guest

    iMac with EyeTV 250, TV Mini HD caps and aspect
    probs>,
    You're welcome, but do note that I've sworn off of the sarcasm until
    after I come back from the dead. :)
    You're welcome, and if the Apple discussion forums aren't any help,
    then you might want to take a look at the many Creative Cow forums,
    although the emphasis tends to be on the Apple Pro Apps.

    http://forums.creativecow.net/

    Good luck!
     
    Frank, Mar 12, 2007
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    Ken Maltby Guest

    Dazzle and Pinnacle, do not have the best of reputations, but fortunately,
    with a PC, you have many other options. Every encoding codec made is
    available for the PC, there are no options available exclusively to a Mac,
    even apple codec. A PC is a platform for many Operating Systems not
    just those the few allowed by Apple, for the Mac. Is there a Linux Mac?

    I am not trying to bash Apple or the Mac, I was just saying that if you
    have
    Apple specific questions, you should try the Apple News Groups. But I can
    and will rebut your claim that the Mac is any better at Video than a PC.

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Mar 12, 2007
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    nappy Guest

    My friend you are in desperate need of some technical education before you
    make a complete ass of yourself here. Dazzle? tee hee!
     
    nappy, Mar 12, 2007
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    lampbay Guest



    You are absolutely right - I'm a learning amateur. I've already
    discovered that if I want to get closed captions to encode to DVD, I'm
    going to need something more than consumer grade software on either PC
    or Mac platforms. The pro software can do it easily from what I've
    ready. I put Dazzle back in the box and switched to Mac because at the
    very least the available consumer grade Mac hardware does capture video
    well along with CC - Dazzle doesn't. I've located some good sources
    for my education thanks to the helpful posts here - much obliged to you
    all.
     
    lampbay, Mar 17, 2007
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