Interesting Leica product announcements today ...

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Bruce, May 10, 2012.

  1. Bruce

    Alan Browne Guest

    I never mentioned lighting at all in this thread before replying to your
    statement about candle lit photos.
    Where did I write that?
    It often isn't in a large space. You'd have a daylight look within the
    range of the flash and BG's lit by fluor. That can work for effect if
    the time is taken to do so - but usually looks odd.
    For fluo I'd rather do it upfront. While I haven't done this in several
    years, the old trick of a light green gel over the strobes and a magenta
    (fluo) over the lens makes the entire scene correct for post correction
    as a fluo to daylight shot.

    This would be painstaking to do in post over dozens or hundreds of
    images where the key is daylight and the BG is fluo.
    This is the same as the above IMO. I often leave incandescent as
    accents in the room with flash or daylight exposure, but certainly not
    for key or fill on skin.
    That's true. I have many filters in a box. The only ones I carry are
    ND's and pol.
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 20/05/2012 9:54 PM:

    Piss off, troll. You and the others from that german university server are more
    than well known, dipshit.
    Noons, May 24, 2012
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  3. I ought to call you mom and tell her to wash out your mouth with lots of soap.


    PS: You still don't have a clue.
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 25, 2012
  4. If you had kept your attributions right, you'd had seen that *I*
    wrote that.
    For a good reason. Look up the original post where it
    appeared and look for the context.
    Who said that where? So far, nonbody did, although it's easily
    demonstrated for some filters like polarizers and graduated
    ND filters and ND filters.
    Even nukes don't light near and far areas evenly.

    Nope. While you can do much in post if there is only a single
    type of light source, as soon as you have different sources
    (window and artifical comes immediately to mind) you're *much*
    better off if you don't have to correct the mixed light in post,
    but gel the lightsources to one common type before you shoot.
    Yes, this isn't always feasible.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 25, 2012
  5. No, but that's the one easy to see without pixel peeping.

    Does that invalidate what I said in any way?

    Wrong. What matters is what the photographer wants. The
    camera is just a tool.
    And that means the photographer is not allowed to use low ISO,
    proper light and noise reduction?
    Again, that's technical limits, not "applying AA filters to
    pointilist paintings".
    At least that's your claim. You do need to provide proof, however.
    The above wasn't even in the same continent.
    And what does that have to do with pointilist paintings, where
    the effect is used on purpose for artistic reasons?

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 27, 2012
  6. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 26/05/2012 1:27 AM:

    Many a lot bigger than you have tried that.
    I'd like to see you have a go, need a good laugh.

    About your imbecile troll thought process?
    You and the other trolls from that german uni site?
    No, thanks!
    Noons, May 28, 2012
  7. They're all 2.6 meters, 500 pounds and have an IQ well
    upwards of Mensa admission requirements? And they wouldn't
    manage to call your mom?
    Oh, *now* I get it! Your mom is an ugly, bearded woman who
    yells at everyone all the time.
    You still don't have a clue, do you?

    Is using the WWW and maybe a google translater way too hard
    for you? Don't worry, clueless trolls like you usually find that
    the reality doesn't impinge their twisted little worlds ...

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 28, 2012
  8. Bruce

    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 29/05/2012 2:50 AM:

    They wouldn't. Unless they can talk to the next world, which I doubt.
    Then again, anyone with 500 pounds needs to be in close contact with next world,
    that's where they are heading soon...

    Like I said: I'd like to see you have a go.

    Yes, precisely. It's the hallmark of trolls like you to go through all those
    machinations to use that kind of site.
    I don't need to.
    BWAHAHA! Get down to earth, idiot.
    Noons, May 29, 2012
  9. Done. Worked. She said she'd spank you, but due to circumstances
    that would have to wait till you're in convenient reach, she'd
    not play "haunted house".

    The convenient reach can be arranged ...

    Yep, you'd rather bum Usenet access from Wolfgang M. Weyand (who
    --- tadaa --- happens to live in Germany, who's servers live in
    Germany, ...) for free. Pray tell, can't you find a newsserver
    in your own country any more? Been thrown off all of them?
    You do speak German? You asked for your username and password
    via gopher --- or did you use snail-mail?

    The "idiot" told to tell you to fix
    your Reply-To:, it's contrary to their TOS. Unless your email
    address is indeed "alt.morons" --- with no domain specification.#

    Which would make sense: you're the moron everywhere.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, May 29, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 30/05/2012 12:16 AM:

    Really? You and whose army?
    Start making sense, moron. You can't even construct a phrase properly, much
    less invent names and situations...
    Er? Are you totally, insanely mad?
    WTF is "gopher"? WTF is "snail-mail"?
    By how many millenia is your mind retarded?
    Really? I'm shaking already. Let me see: you'd only be the umpteenth utter
    imbecile who attempts to "shut me up". Sad... Really sad...
    So much effort of that single brain cell, and totally wasted...
    What can I say other than:

    Looking at mirrors again? Seems a constant with you...
    I'd consult a shrink, if I were you. That sort of crap can lead to suicide.
    Guess what's coming, troll:
    Noons, Jun 1, 2012
  11. Gopher was the text-only somewhat-precursor to HTML.

    WTF is "snail-mail"?

    The United States Postal Service. Actually, its
    now no longer snail-like.

    Doug McDonald
    Doug McDonald, Jun 1, 2012
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    Joe Makowiec Guest

    Just to add some historical context - it originated at the University
    of Minnesota (Home of the 'Golden Gophers') in the early days of the
    World Wide Web, ca 1991. It was sort of a competitor.
    Joe Makowiec, Jun 1, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    there are indeed too many people who make nasty comments about others
    without disclosing their true identity.
    PeterN, Jun 1, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    PeterN wrote,on my timestamp of 2/06/2012 6:24 AM:
    Bingo. About bloody time this happens!
    I hope it gets approved and spreads out.
    Enough is enough!
    Noons, Jun 2, 2012
  15. The army of grains of sand in the used, smelly sock.

    No need for a solitary sniper in *your* case: you bark real loud
    and proud, but you'd need to get dentures for a bite that might
    threaten a fresh, very soft milk roll.

    You cannot be *that* naive about your own usenet provider
    when a moron can find out all and more that in 5 minutes.

    See other posts. Obviously you have not been around for long
    nor know much about the Internet. Anything *you* don't
    grasp is madness ... which says lots about you.

    BTW, if you run across vocabulary you don't grasp, asking
    wikipedia or google is a good idea even you could implement
    if you worked hard at it.

    Obviously you're an asshole to everyone.
    Well, *my* single brain cell can figure out --- all on it's own ---
    that if you want to be nasty (i.e. just yourself) you need to use
    "Followup-To:", not "Reply-To:". So what's wrong with *your*
    brain? Drowned in alcohol? Happen to have 2 brain cells
    (one's lost and the other's looking for it)? Brain amputee?

    Not that "Followup-To:" will work against me, as I do have a
    single brain cell --- which works.

    Yep, if I was *you*, the thought that a one-braincell-moron
    would outthink, outknow, outsmart and outfigure me every turn
    would surely lead to suicide --- but then I, being you,
    wouldn't have the mental power to even notice that.
    Oh, I shivvvver in by very trousers. I really do. But ...
    thinking about it, it's the sort of stupidity a Noons would commit,
    and it's double stupid since Noons is not Noons real name.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jun 2, 2012
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    PeterN Guest

    However, there are many valid reasons one might want to speak anonymously.

    1. job preservation.
    2. Privacy protection to deter identity theft.
    PeterN, Jun 2, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    PeterN wrote,on my timestamp of 3/06/2012 12:01 AM:
    Narh, sorry. The need to do so is long gone.
    There is absolutely no reason for anyone to post anonymously or through
    remailers, in this day and age.
    Noons, Jun 3, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    So says the "wizofoz2k".
    Noons, I just love the new running gag!
    Oh! The irony!
    Savageduck, Jun 3, 2012
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    Mxsmanic Guest

    It's the other way around: anonymity is more important now than ever before.
    Mxsmanic, Jun 3, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    Savageduck wrote,on my timestamp of 3/06/2012 4:20 PM:
    Dude, if you don't know who I am,
    why I call myself that and where I live,
    I can only say: "What an idiot..."
    Noons, Jun 5, 2012
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