Is cell phone image quality always this bad!?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Steven O., Jun 18, 2006.

  1. Steven O.

    Steven O. Guest

    After using the same cell phone for eight years -- something with a
    cheap LED display, and a battery that lasted about 1/2 hour -- I
    finally upgraded to a new cell phone. Lighter, lasts longer, more
    memory, and I thought it was pretty cool that it could take photos,
    which might come in handy some time.

    It's an LG phone, I forget the model number, but even when I set it to
    the highest resolution and image quality, the photos are essentially
    junk -- much too low resolution, and too blurry, to be useful for any
    real uses. (I thought like, if I'm at an accident scene, I could take
    pictures or something. Forget it....)

    Is this typical of most cell phones with cameras these days, or at
    least typical of the ones that have moderate costs, or did the
    salesman stick me with a lemon!?

    Steve O.

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    Steven O., Jun 18, 2006
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    Bill R Guest

    A lot of the camera phones in the marketplace (especially in the U.S.)
    are very low resolution. There are some that are 1.3MP and they take
    fairly good quality pictures.
    Bill R, Jun 19, 2006
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    Jerrrrrryy Guest


    The pic quality is kept low on US phones, because phone makers are
    worried about kids snappin pix over bathroom stall walls, up skirts, etc.
    Jerrrrrryy, Jun 19, 2006
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    B. Peg Guest

    Is this typical of most cell phones with cameras these days, or at
    Go buy the Nokia N-93. It's 3.2 megapixels. It's more a of a
    camera-with-a-phone than a phone-with-a-camera.

    Of course, if you are in the U.S. you might have problems finding a carrier
    until they adapt the phone to the frequencies needed.

    B. Peg, Jun 19, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    Welp, my Motorola V710 - at the time it was released, THE hot phone,
    with 1.3MP camera, video, TV, etc. - takes absolutely horrible pictures
    even in bright daylight. Low-light photos are almost completely
    useless, as is the "built-in flash" (three tiny white LEDs). This is
    actually a well-known issue with this phone; the Moto E810, a close
    cousing the V710, takes excellent 1.3MP pictures.

    By contrast, my wife's LG 6960 and my Palm Treo 650 both have VGA
    (640x480) cameras that take remarkably clear, bright pictures...
    considering the miniscule size of the camera sensor itself and the
    typically cheap fixed-focus plastic lenses, at least (I don't expect any
    to come anywhere near my Canon digital SLR.)

    I find it's kind of a crap shoot - you can't go by pixel count; if fact,
    that's even less of an indicator than with P&S digitals. Best idea is
    to try out the camera before buying the phone, if it's that important.

    Oh, one other thing: a friend of mine recently got a new LG 535 (kinda
    neat, the keypad slides out the bottom), and he was REALLY disappointed
    with the terribly fuzzy pictures its 1.3MP camera took... until I peeled
    off the blue plastic protector over the lens. Now it takes really nice
    clear pics! :)
    Matt Ion, Jun 19, 2006
  6. I have a Motorola V220 phone, whose built-in video camera is 640x480.
    I'd have to do a careful comparison to decide whether it's better than
    my QuickTake 100, which is also 640x480. But they are both *awful* in
    comparison to a cheap 2 MP Canon A200, which is the cheapest and worst
    modern digicam I have to compare against.


    PS: I didn't buy the phone for the camera. My cellular carrier doesn't
    offer any multi-band GSM phones (that will work in Europe) *without* a
    camera. So the camera was a necessary unwanted feature.
    Dave Martindale, Jun 19, 2006
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    WinField Guest

    I thought so too, until I transfered some pictures from my E815 to the
    computer, and viewed them there. Not too shabby, actually ...

    WinField, Jun 19, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    Have you looked at the lens? A one millimetre diameter bit of plastic won't
    do any justice whatsoever even to a 5mpx sensor, and therein lies the
    problem with phones. Compare that with, eg, a Canon 17-40L.

    Talk down your phone, take pictures with your camera.
    Helen, Jun 19, 2006
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    ASAAR Guest

    You've got a RAZR? I wouldn't have expected that from you, you
    old geezer. You must still have a few functioning teeny bopper
    chromosomes. :)
    ASAAR, Jun 19, 2006
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    ASAAR Guest

    <g> Anyone remembering that line has at least a few years on
    them. The only knocks I heard on the RAZR (shortly after they were
    introduced) were that some said they were overpriced, that many
    features were designed to suck in the kids, and that the audio
    quality could have been a lot better. My current very small Nokia
    doesn't sound nearly as well as my older, larger Nokia did, but
    somehow I manage . . .
    ASAAR, Jun 20, 2006
  11. In Europe 1.3 megapixels seems to be the norm among camera phones.
    The high-end phones have 2 megapixels or more, some even with
    auto-focus, i.e. not fixed focus.
    Måns Rullgård, Jun 20, 2006
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    Marty Guest

    Somewhere around Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:58:21 GMT, while reading alt.cellular,
    Does the phone have settings for other camera functions, such as exposure,
    lighting, etc? Sometimes taking the extra time to set the exposure rather
    than using auto makes it better.

    I don't use mine for normal photos. Sometimes I'll take a picture of where
    I parked in a big lot, or a street sign so I'll remember an intersection
    when I'm sightseeing in a strange place. I've heard other ideas like
    snapping a sign with store hours so you can remember later, etc.
    Marty, Jun 21, 2006
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