Is film next for Kodak???

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by JPDFDA, Jun 15, 2005.


    JPDFDA Guest

    JPDFDA, Jun 15, 2005
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    Peter Chant Guest

    Do they do cameras?

    If no film an no cameras what do they do?
    Peter Chant, Jun 15, 2005
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    PGG Guest

    Medical imaging. This is where the bucks are.

    Also Kodak seems to be really after the printing kiosk market
    PGG, Jun 15, 2005
  4. BZZZZZT! Wrong!

    I'm amazed at the mass ignorance here of what Kodak really is about these
    days. Someone else mentioned it: it's called "digital imaging".

    And no, this actually has very little to do with digital cameras and such.
    Seems many folks here are ignorant of the much larger world of production
    printing. We're not talking about little bitty desktop printers, but big
    honking medium- and large-format printers that are starting to compete with
    offset presses for a share of an incredibly large market. Far larger than all
    the film, paper and chemicals Kodak ever sold put together. They have deals
    and alliances with such giants of the printing industry as Heidelberg.

    The next time you get a piece of junk mail that has your name printed on it in
    the same font and texture as the rest of the piece--full color--it's possible
    it may have been printed on a Kodak system (or at least one that used some
    Kodak components or processes).

    *That's* where Kodak is headed. And consumer film and paper is totally
    irrelevant to that part of the business.

    Bumper sticker of the week (spotted in Bezerkeley):

    Visualize Using Your Turn Signals

    - especially fitting for Northern California
    David Nebenzahl, Jun 16, 2005

    John Guest

    DI, IP and greed.
    John, Jun 16, 2005
  6. "IP" as in intellectual property? How is it that Kodak is significantly
    involved in that? (I'm asking out of pure ignorance here.)

    And insofar as "greed" is concerned, how is Kodak any more or less greedy than
    any number of large corps? Where would you place them, on a scale with Mom &
    Pop's Honest Little Photo Shop on one end and, say, Enron on the other end?

    Bumper sticker of the week (spotted in Bezerkeley):

    Visualize Using Your Turn Signals

    - especially fitting for Northern California
    David Nebenzahl, Jun 16, 2005

    John Guest

    In the 80's, Kodak invested heavily in R-&-D for digital imaging and holds
    numerous patents. Also note that their dye technology is probably second to
    none and I don't doubt that Epson, HP and others have lisenced some of that
    I would say that Kodak is a huge company full of baby-boomers looking to
    eak out every last centavo on their way out the door. They would rank above
    Enron (the bottom of the barrel) and other companies who deliberately break
    the law but below other companies such as IBM and endeavor to maintain
    customer relationships.
    John, Jun 16, 2005
  8. After googling up an article, it seems you did hit a nail on the head so far
    as Kodak/IP was concerned, but you left out one of the most interesting parts:
    Kodak's lawsuit against Sun over Java, which Kodak claimed Sun infringed
    (after Kodak bought it from Wang--remember them?). Check it out:

    Pure prophecy:

    "You telling me you ain't got a pint mug in the 'ole bleeding boozer?"
    "And what in hell's name is a pint?" said the barman, leaning forward
    with the tips of his fingers on the counter. "Ark at 'im! Calls 'isself a
    barman and don't know what a pint is! Why, a pint's the 'alf of a quart, and
    there's four quarts to the gallon. 'Ave to teach you the A, B, C next."
    "Never heard of 'em," said the barman shortly. "Litre and half litre --
    that's all we serve."

    - George Orwell, _1984_
    David Nebenzahl, Jun 16, 2005
  9. Perhaps, but not with film. At least, dental imaging. My dentist is already
    planning to go digital for the dental x-rays. Smaller, images easier to
    store on computer without the need to scan and digitize them first, easier
    to keep records together with images, ... .
    Jean-David Beyer, Jun 16, 2005
  10. In the end, classing Enron as a representative of
    large business is to misrepresent the company.
    It was a shell game in the end.
    GM, Wendy's, IBM, E-K, etc., all produce product and service.

    [email protected], Jun 16, 2005
  11. Common logic for argument on Usenet:

    If one object is 'A' then all objects are 'A'.

    If one object is not 'B' then no objects are 'B'

    And still the world turns.
    Nicholas O. Lindan, Jun 16, 2005
  12. Makes sense.
    In a web sort of way. ;)

    [email protected], Jun 16, 2005
  13. JPDFDA

    John Guest

    I was one of the major sources of revenue for Kodak. They lost out big as
    they simply couldn't compete with digital X-ray machines. I had to have
    X-rays on my back 4 years ago and that doctor was all-digital then. Prior
    to digital he probably used more film in a day than I shoot on a busy
    John, Jun 17, 2005
  14. right.

    the only problem is that the manufacturer of medical machines are
    moving to digital and *no* tac's, magnetic resonance's, eco's and so
    on use chemical supports anymore: they *all* moved to digital, because
    of the far lower costs of the final printed supports.

    kodak won't be able to survive with medical much more: as long as the
    current equipment/machines are replaced with new ones, the medical
    supports kodak produces decrease their numbers.

    Gianni Rondinini, Jun 17, 2005
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