Is Fuji S3000 3.2m/pixel output, or 6 m/pixel interpolated output?

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Peter H, Nov 19, 2003.

  1. Peter H

    Peter H Guest

    Greetings.... Apologies if this posts twice, first try went down a black
    'ole....

    I bought a Fuji S3000 at the weekend, on the strength of an advert claiming
    it has 3.2 m/pixel, interpolated to 6 m/pixel output. I'm damned if I can
    find any reference to interpolated output in the manual, or on Fuji's site:

    Can anyone tell me if I've been misled, or is this a feature of Fuji kit in
    general?

    Pete
     
    Peter H, Nov 19, 2003
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  2. Peter H

    KS Guest

    As I understand it, the S3000 only does 3.2MP, it's the S5000 the does 3.2MP
    interpolated to 6 MP. The S3000 comes in silver, the S5000 in black.

    But then, I could be wrong ! Hope this helps.
     
    KS, Nov 19, 2003
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  3. You have been misled.
     
    I used to be sober but now I am, Nov 20, 2003
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  4. All Bayer camera's interpolate. In 6MP mode your Fuji interpolates to twice
    the degree.

    Here are the facts. Note, this is quite kind to the Bayer cameras since in
    reality only 75% of the total sensor count can be used to create full color
    since 25% of the total sensors are green orphans, as you'll see below.
    Divide the S2 Pro's sensor count in half to get the S3000's numbers. Cost
    per sensor is the most important and interesting section....

    Optical information captured - 14n is the benchmark = 100%:
    --------------------
    14n - 100%
    1Ds - 81%
    SD9 - 75%
    10D - 46%
    S2 - 45%
    D100 - 44%

    Sensor color breakdown - R, G, B (R%, G%, B%), 14n is the benchmark = 100%:
    --------------------
    14n - 3.43, 6.85, 3.43 (100, 100, 100)
    1Ds - 2.78, 5.55, 2.78 (81, 81, 81)
    SD9 - 3.43, 3.43, 3.43 (100, 50, 100)
    10D - 1.58, 3.15, 1.58 (46, 46, 46)
    S2 - 1.52, 3.05, 1.52 (45, 45, 45)
    D100 - 1.50, 3.00, 1.50 (44, 44, 44)

    Degree of color interpolation present in output files - SD9 is the benchmark
    = 100%:
    --------------------
    SD9 (3.4 MP) - 100% optical color data per output pixel (= no interpolation)
    14n (13.7 MP) - 33% optical color data per output pixel
    1Ds (11.1 MP) - 33% optical color data per output pixel
    10D (6.3 MP) - 33% optical color data per output pixel
    S2 (6.1 MP) - 33% optical color data per output pixel
    D100 (6.0 MP) - 33% optical color data per output pixel
    SD9 (13.7 MP) - 25% optical color data per output pixel
    S2 (12.2 MP) - 17% optical color data per output pixel

    Cost in cents per sensor - 1DS = benchmark, source: pricegrabber.com:
    --------------------
    1Ds - .060 (100%)
    14n - .030 (50%)
    S2 - .025 (42%)
    D100 - .024 (40%)
    10D - .022 (36%)
    SD9 - .008 (13%)

    Body cost - 1DS = benchmark. Source: pricegrabber.com:
    --------------------
    1Ds - $6350 (100%)
    14n - $4145 (65%)
    S2 - $1549 (24%)
    D100 - $1429 (23%)
    10D - $1359 (21%)
    SD9 - $899 (14%)
     
    George Preddy, Nov 20, 2003
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  5. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    <snip snip>

    Still babbling about 25% green orphans I see...again prove it...
     
    Bill M, Nov 20, 2003
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  6. unsnip unsnip
     
    George Preddy, Nov 20, 2003
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  7. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    Your figures George...post ANYTHING reputable backing them up! I can't
    find any mention in any discussion of bayer sensors anywhere that back
    you up....
     
    Bill M, Nov 20, 2003
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  8. Check em anywhere, they're right. If not, please let me know which one is
    wrong.
     
    George Preddy, Nov 20, 2003
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  9. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    You replied as expected...coward...it's up to you to prove the 25%
    orphan greens, YOU made the statement. Your chart means nothing as I
    don't consider you a reputable source. As I said, I can't locate
    ANYTHING ANYWHERE backing your assesment of the orphans...try reading
    what I wrote!
     
    Bill M, Nov 20, 2003
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  10. Find any explanation of Bayer's RGB breakout anywhere, it'll agree with my
    numbers to the tee.
     
    George Preddy, Nov 21, 2003
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  11. Peter H

    Guest Guest

    There are no orphaned sensors. You are a TROLL, and 25% likely to be a
    danger to those around you.

    Please tell me you haven't sired any offspring, or at least if you have,
    that their mother(s) live far away and deny you access.
     
    Guest, Nov 21, 2003
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  12. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    I've read em...no mention of 25% orhaned green sensors, so therefore
    you are:

    a) full of shit as usual
    b) stupid
    c) a liar
    d) a coward
    e) a troll
    f) live in a fantasy world
    g) all the above

    I'm going with g
     
    Bill M, Nov 21, 2003
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  13. What a great, informative post this was...
     
    George Preddy, Nov 21, 2003
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  14. Peter H

    Guest Guest

    George is a troll. He doesn't understand sensor technology. Ignore
    everything he says.
    Go to a reputable review site instead.
     
    Guest, Nov 21, 2003
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  15. Then your source is wrong. Bayers use 25% red, 50% green, 25% blue sensors.
    Only 75% of the total sensor count has complimentary matches. Out of
    curiousity, what source are you using that says Bayers are 33/33/33% RGB?
     
    George Preddy, Nov 21, 2003
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  16. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    I'm not claiming 33%, can you read? Bayer does not have 25% orphaned
    greens...which is your still unproven statement...
     
    Bill M, Nov 21, 2003
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  17. How many complete RGB sets are there on a 6M sensor Bayer, in only your
    world?
     
    George Preddy, Nov 22, 2003
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  18. Stil zero, but apparently you're not paying attention as it has been
    explained to you before.

    Bart
     
    Bart van der Wolf, Nov 22, 2003
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  19. Peter H

    Bill M Guest

    Why on earth can't you just answer a question? PROVE the 25% green
    orphans....oh, wait, you can't because they don't get orphaned. BTW,
    when you prove your point (with someone besides your bs data), I'll
    answer your question, til then....
     
    Bill M, Nov 22, 2003
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  20. Peter H

    Ray Fischer Guest

    George is lying outright. There are no green orphans.
     
    Ray Fischer, Nov 22, 2003
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