Is my New 20D body actualy New?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Robert R Kircher, Jr., Aug 9, 2005.

  1. I just received a "new" Canon 20D body from Dell but I'm not sure it is
    actually new. It's very very clean, no scratches or tell tale signs that
    it's been used and all the accessories and manuals etc are in sealed
    packages but the box looks less then new. There is sticker residue from
    where there was obviously a sticker on the box and other signs of use.

    How can I tell how many times the shutter has been fired or how may pics the
    camera has actually taken.
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Aug 9, 2005
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  2. Robert R Kircher, Jr.

    burnsdavidj Guest

    I wouldn't worry... its fairly common for companies with centralised
    warehouses (and rely upon 3rd party shipping) to have less-than-stellar
    handling of the boxes. Sometimes wholesalers will take back and
    redistribute sealed packages of 'current' product if, say, a ma'n'pa
    store goes under.

    I'm unaware of any camera-bios metering that can be measured as to # of
    shutter clicks, but again I doubt you have anything to worry about.
    burnsdavidj, Aug 9, 2005
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  3. Robert R Kircher, Jr.

    l e o Guest

    I don't know but in the mean time, you can take a picture and check the
    file number. The four digital file number system should start from 1.
    l e o, Aug 9, 2005
  4. I thought about that, however, it picked up the numbering off the CF Card
    last used in my 300D.
    Robert R Kircher, Jr., Aug 9, 2005
  5. Robert R Kircher, Jr.

    DoN. Nichols Guest

    [ ... ]
    Well ... I don't know about Cannon, but with my Nikon D70, if I
    use "exiftool" (a unix based program) to look at the exif data in the
    last image downloaded from the CF cards, I find the following line:

    Shutter Count : 5495

    and the shot just before it show up with the appropriate value of
    "5494", so it seems to be counting shutter cycles.

    There may or may not be a similar bit of data stored in the
    Cannon's EXIF data -- but you may need some tool other than whatever
    came with the camera to see it.

    "exiftool" happens to be a perl program, and there is a (free)
    perl interpreter for Windows boxen, so you have a chance of being able
    to run it. "exiftool" is also free software, as is common in the unix
    world. And it certainly shows me more information than the "Picture
    Project" package shipped with the D70 does.

    I would expect a certain number of shutter operations even in a
    brand new camera, as it certainly was tested in the factory before it
    was shipped. But if it gets into three digits, that is a different

    Good Luck,
    DoN. Nichols, Aug 9, 2005
  6. Robert R Kircher, Jr.

    Darrell Guest

    It is unlikely that cameras are tested before shipping. I would expect only
    some random testing during a production run.
    Darrell, Aug 9, 2005
  7. Robert R Kircher, Jr.

    Jim Redelfs Guest

    I am confident that my 20D was brand new when I bought it. I looked at and
    handled one (of the two on hand) in the store prior to my purchase. When I
    finally made the purchase, I asked to be sold the OTHER one. They cheerfully
    complied. The box was "properly" sealed, as were all the contents.

    The VERY first frame was numbered IMG_0100. FWIW.

    Jim Redelfs, Aug 10, 2005
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