Is Sony Vegas 5 just a copy of Sonic Foundry Vegas 4?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Are there any major improvements in Sony Vegas 5 or are there just
    extra features?
    An example of a major improvement would be to render a video in a
    shorter time.

    Regards Brian
    Brian, Sep 1, 2004
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    Hal Guest

    Major improvements, just as beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. That
    said, here's a quick excerpt from the update manual instructions:

    I: Enhancements to video tools

    Enhanced Track Motion tools
    3D motion and compositing
    Video track nesting and nested-track 3D compositing
    Keyframable bezier masks
    Macromedia® FlashT .swf import
    Improved MPEG-2 support
    Subtitle time/text export to DVD Architect 2
    Transition progress envelopes

    II: Enhancements to audio tools

    Envelope automation recording
    Envelope point thinning
    Enhanced punch-in recording
    Auto input monitoring
    ACID loop support
    Improved audio time stretching
    Keyboard event pitch shifting
    5.1 audio plug-in support for the master bus
    Film-style 5.1 surround panning
    Real-time downmix monitoring
    Bus-to-bus routing
    User configurable window layout
    Customizable keyboard shortcuts
    Media subclips
    Real-time A/V event reverse
    Global opacity/volume envelope changes
    Dragable edit cursor
    FX package folders
    Enhanced marker support

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    Hal, Sep 1, 2004
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  3. That would take a faster computer.
    Laurence Payne, Sep 1, 2004
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    Steve King Guest

    If I'm not mistaken, Vegas 5 now supports networked rendering, which speeds
    up renders of all kinds dramatically.

    Steve King
    Steve King, Sep 1, 2004
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    David Chien Guest

    Are there any major improvements in Sony Vegas 5 or are there just
    The MPEG and other rendering really hasn't changed much -- still
    takes hours to render a 2 hour video, so there has been no significant
    improvements here. Really, really do wish they'd look at the far faster
    Cinema Craft Encoder series, license the engine, and drop that into the
    Vegas as an option.

    eg. Vegas usually does 2x-4x slower than real-time encoding of DV AVI
    files on the timeline, but CCE on the same machine can do it in
    real-time speed (eg. 2 hours takes 2 hours rather than 4+ hours).

    Here, it's a case where even their ~$60 Basic version will render
    MPEG-2 files far faster than the MainConcept MPEG encoder Vegas ships --
    what's the point of spending another $300+ on a second, networked
    computer just to bring the rendering times in Vegas down to real-time
    when a $60 CCE encoder can do it on a single PC?

    This is one point where Vegas falls short. A few new features, but
    nothing most people can't do without if they only have 4.0.
    David Chien, Sep 1, 2004
  6. Here, it's a case where even their ~$60 Basic version will render MPEG-2
    On that note, do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
    compressing them with Mainconcept? Some of my captures are a little grainy
    and the MC MPEG2 encoder doesn't do a great job with grainy video. I seem
    to recall CCE having some smoothing options though it's been ages since I
    used it....

    It certainly would be fantasic if MC supported network compressing - I've
    got 3 PCs in my office that would do that nicely.
    Steve Simpson, Sep 2, 2004
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    David Chien Guest

    On that note, do you know if there's any way to filter videos before
    Feed them through VirtualDub first as AVI files and use the many
    VirtualDub filters available before feeding through MainConcept.
    David Chien, Sep 4, 2004
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    There's a thread on the Sony Vegas forum at that
    goes through a few techniques that you might find useful for reducing noise.
    If that's too much work, the other option is to buy a Canopus ADVC-300.
    It's not cheap but apparently it does a fantastic job.

    Mike Kujbida, Sep 4, 2004
  9. I'll second that for the 300 - I've been happy with mine (and Vegas 5).

    david gourley, Sep 7, 2004
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    John Guest

    I thought I read somewhere that Vegas Network Rendering will not render to
    John, Sep 8, 2004
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    It will - sort of. According to Sony:

    "Certain file formats, such as MPEG-2, AC-3 and MP3 are licensed per
    computer and cannot be used on render-only clients. Additionally, MPEG-2
    can be used for the final output format, but not for rendered segments in
    distributed rendering.

    ** If you want to use network rendering with these formats and have a
    multiprocessor computer or a computer with a processor that supports
    Hyper-Threading technology, you can run multiple instances of the render
    service on that computer."

    Mike Kujbida, Sep 9, 2004
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    John Guest

    John, Sep 10, 2004
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