Is there a way to lighten up a photo without expensive software?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Jennifer Murphy, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. Jennifer Murphy

    Savageduck Guest

    No different. They are photographers who work either as free-lancers,
    or for agencies so they can feed themselves. Some are very good, some
    are hacks.
    Again, many of those are agency photographers. The primary purpose is
    the job, the secondary the accolades, including the Pulitzer prizes for
    the ego stroke. However, quite a few are self admitted thrill seekers,
    addicted to the danger surrounding them, and many have paid an enormous
    price. Among that group are photographers such as Capa, Burrows,
    Ellison, Flynn and hundreds more who did not survive SE-Asia. Also,
    there were those who were terribly injured such as Tim Page in Vietnam,
    and Joao Silva in Afghanistan. Many were young enthusiasts obsessed
    with "getting the front page shot" that would get them a whole $25
    bonus in the Vietnam War days.
    So, you notice that there is a difference between the two?
    Kevin Carter got a Pulitzer for his shots in Sudan, forensic
    photographers get their salary and sometimes overtime. However, Carter
    couldn't deal with what he witnessed, got lost in drug use and
    committed suicide.
    Never underestimate the desires and taste of the public.
     
    Savageduck, Dec 22, 2013
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  2. Jennifer Murphy

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Even in the above you glorify the photographers who make their living
    capturing the misery of others.

    Yes, I think they are brave and that their work brings home how ugly
    and devastating war an other crimes against humanity can be. But,
    when push comes to shove, they are just doing what Weegee did in a
    different theater.
    Of course. There's a purpose to the forensic photographer's work that
    is greater than any compensation he/she might receive for the job.
    Their work does not just capture misery, but captures the conditions
    for a specific future purpose.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 22, 2013
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  3. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    On 12/22/2013 10:40 AM, Savageduck wrote:


    By itself it is a well exposed documentary image. I consider his tats
    to be art. If the image is part of a series, then I would probably
    consider the series to be art.
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  4. Jennifer Murphy

    Savageduck Guest

    That is exactly what it is.
    Just because the subject is wearing art does not necessarily make that
    particular image art. They are two very different things.
    Oh! it is part of a series alright! ...and that was probably the most
    clinically presentable of the bunch.
    I suppose one could have a gallery present a 60-80 shot show
    documenting "ignominious death in gangland".
     
    Savageduck, Dec 22, 2013
  5. Jennifer Murphy

    Guest Guest

    i never show incorrect attributions. i trim all but the most recent one
    because that's the one to which i'm responding and the only one that's
    relevant. the rest is noise.

    any quoted text beyond one level is there for context and is likely in
    a different colour anyway so there won't be any confusion about
    attributions, but for those who are confused over the obvious, just
    click on the referenced links, all the way back to the first post, if
    necessary.
     
    Guest, Dec 22, 2013
  6. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    Of course.
    what I ws getting at was a series, shot for an artistic purpose, no
    matter how macabre . e.g. "images from the morgue;" "tats." if they were
    shot from a different POV.
    I am working on a project that I call "Sidings; Stoops & Steps of
    Savannah." I do not consider any one image of mine to be art. However
    the collection, when completed, hopefully will be. It will be the
    relation of the images that qualifies.
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  7. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    that type of "context" leads to incorrect attributions, and causes
    confusion. when I want to accuse you of contradicting yourself, the
    proof is gone.
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  8. Jennifer Murphy

    Savageduck Guest

    Yup! I went to college with a guy who shot nothing but close ups of
    door knobs, antique, contemporary, glass, ceramic, metal, etc.. When
    put together they were absolutely amazing art.
     
    Savageduck, Dec 22, 2013
  9. Jennifer Murphy

    Tony Cooper Guest


    A rich source for photographers. These two were taken in Savannah:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/bc0wqaycxc776lt/2011-08-03-01.jpg

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/s94svvckw5bph0a/2011-08-03-02.jpg

    The first one needs re-doing with some perspective change.

    The building with the steps in the first one has two flights of
    stairs. This is a shot taken 4 years earlier of the same place, but
    the other set of steps and put through a PS filter.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tzd9phc3qo21foy/2007-12-29-03.jpg

    We usually stay in the Planter's Inn on Reynolds Square.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 22, 2013
  10. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    Yup! I figure the project should take several years. It gives me an
    excuse to keep coming back.

    These two were taken in Savannah:
    I would mask out the filter on the lamp post. I think that it causes a
    distraction fron the building
    We usually stay at the Springfield Suites. Marriott give me good deals.
    Hopefully we will stop there on the way back.
    My wife really likes dinner at the Olde Pink House, which IIRC, is next
    door to the Pink House.

    One day I will convince my wife to go on a ghost tour.
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  11. Jennifer Murphy

    Eric Stevens Guest

    That's true, but only if you don't have to think more than one level
    back up the discussion. In the common situation where several people
    interweave their comments it's very easy to find that you don't know
    who said what, or exactly what it is you are discussing.
    You can't assume colours. For example, I see all quoted text as blue:
    none of these greens, reds or yellows. Others see all text in black
    and only the quote levels distinguish one from another.

    But even colours don't help you with higher level quotes, if
    attributions are missing.
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 22, 2013
  12. Jennifer Murphy

    Eric Stevens Guest

    .... everything is art to somebody?
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 22, 2013
  13. Jennifer Murphy

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Is it a joke?
     
    Eric Stevens, Dec 22, 2013
  14. Jennifer Murphy

    Guest Guest

    it *never* leads to incorrect attributions, ever, unless the reader is
    confused.

    i include only the most recent attribution, which is *always* correct.

    it's the only one that's absolutely necessary. rarely is a second level
    needed.

    the other text is *always* marked by incrementing quote levels (i.e.,
    not the provided attribution) and serve as context.

    more than a couple of levels is rarely needed. it's noise.

    if you don't remember who said what, click the link and find out.
     
    Guest, Dec 22, 2013
  15. Jennifer Murphy

    Guest Guest

    i'm replying to the most recent level which is attributed. the rest is
    for context.

    i'm not replying to those levels directly, so they need not be directly
    attributed.

    they're there so that the text i'm responding to is clear and
    unambiguous.

    you can always click the attribution link to find out more.
    that's' why i said 'likely in a different colour'.

    i didn't say it always was.
    of course they do. that's *why* they're a different colour.
     
    Guest, Dec 22, 2013
  16. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    It someone doesn't understand what you are saying, YOU have failed to
    communicate effectively.
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  17. Jennifer Murphy

    Guest Guest

    what part do you not understand?
     
    Guest, Dec 22, 2013
  18. Jennifer Murphy

    PeterN Guest

    Huh!
     
    PeterN, Dec 22, 2013
  19. Jennifer Murphy

    Tony Cooper Guest

    The Pink House is right next door to the Planter's Inn.

    We found the Planter's Inn years ago, and remained loyal to the place
    because so much is within walking distance. The last couple of visits
    to Savannah we took bicycles on the bicycle rack, so we don't even
    have to walk that much.
     
    Tony Cooper, Dec 22, 2013
  20. Jennifer Murphy

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Dec 22, 2013
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