Is this why Rich likes the E500?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Pete D, May 28, 2007.

  1. Pete D

    Pete D Guest

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    Savageduck Guest

    My questions would be;
    What exactly are the environmental conditions for each of the programmed
    shooting modes?
    Is specialized lighting required?
    Would there be time limitations, or perhaps shooting tempo requirements
    for using each of those modes?
    or
    Are they merely a convenience for use in awkward situations?
    and
    Wouldn't plastic be better for quick cleanup?
     
    Savageduck, May 28, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    RichA, May 28, 2007
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  4. Pete D

    Savageduck Guest

    All joking aside, the D40/x is the Nikon transition from P&S and the
    pre-programmed modes are for those who don't have a clue or might never
    have a clue about creative photography beyond framing.(Not to say
    pre-programmed modes are not without their occasional usefulness.)

    Given individual preferences, ownership of legacy lenses and tribal
    loyalty any DSLR from a reputable manufacturer providing aperture or
    shutter priority or full manual configurability can get the job done.

    My ownership and use of my 40 year old Yashica Electro 35 and 38 year
    old (and pretty configurable) Pentax K1000 did not influence me when I
    went digital. I got what worked best for me when shopped for a digital
    K1000 replacement and that was a D70. Now with a D200 added and almost
    $10,000 in glass I am pretty much locked into the Nikon model. That said
    it could have been just as easy to go down the Olympus, Canon or other
    road.

    I could care less about plastic or metal provided I create the image I
    can smile at with a degree of satisfaction.
     
    Savageduck, May 28, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    This duck may be a Savageduck, but he's also a wise old duck. As
    opposed to RichA who is too often a silly goose. :)
     
    ASAAR, May 28, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    One thing that is encouraging is the diminishment of neurotic brand
    loyalty we see. More people are being pragmatic about their choices.
     
    RichA, May 28, 2007
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  7. Pete D

    ASAAR Guest

    Maybe, but that remains to be seen. One reason might be that
    there are fewer remaining loyal fans of the less popular brands due
    to the cliquesters driving them away. (O Stacey, where art thou?)
    Another reason could be that it's cyclic and we're in a trough that
    will soon rise. Yet another reason could be that the brand battles
    are fiercest after people feel a need to find ways to justify their
    purchases, and that occurs most often when camera manufacturers
    introduce their new models, especially DSLRs. Whatever. If it
    doesn't last, enjoy it while it does. :)
     
    ASAAR, May 28, 2007
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  8. Pete D

    Savageduck Guest

    For somebody who graduated from high school in 1966 I still consider old
    a premature description.
    Wise may only relate to some pragmatic lessons learned after survival of
    a misspent youth which included some obscure conflicts, dabbling with
    FORTRAN and other intoxicants. However the wisest decision might have
    been mothballing that Durst enlarger and moving to Photoshop. I do miss
    Tri-X though and maybe I should have kept the Spotmatic with the meter
    mounted on top of the prism, but the TTL metering of the K1000 was just
    too irresistible back then(the fake leather?? textured paper on the body
    has given the K1000 a pretty well worn, weathered, battered look. And
    there is metal under that paper.)
     
    Savageduck, May 28, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    I take it back. You graduated several years after I did. :)

    Well, well, if not for my Nikon F we could have been twins. I
    miss the trio of Tri, Plus and Panatomic X, my old Durst 606 (their
    small model), stainless steel Nikor developing cans, Rodinal and
    FORTRAN. Still have my McCracken manual somewhere.
     
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    per Guest

    There is Manual, Aperture and Shutter Priority modes apart from all the
    pre-programmed modes in the D40, so where is the limitation? I for one found
    the sports mode of the D40 quite useful, with it's auto-iso function, when
    shooting an occational soccer game.
    /per
     
    per, May 28, 2007
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  11. Nonsense!

    If you're lens collection primarily is non-"G" glass you can buy a 5D and an
    adapter to get the best of both worlds.






    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, May 29, 2007
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  12. Pete D

    Savageduck Guest

    OK! we are both ageless refugees from the 60's :)
    I have to admit if it wasn't for the Spotmatic I might have gone Nikon
    back then.

    I
    Strangely enough I had a 606.

    , stainless steel Nikor developing cans
    Ah yes wasn't loading those spools fun? I also had a couple of my
    father's bakelite cans which were actually easier to load than the
    stainless.(I also used his 1947 print drier until the fabric gave up.)

    , Rodinal and
    The joys of punch cards,18 inch drum disc arrays and tape. I do love my
    PowerBook now and there should be a MacBookPro sometime in the near
    future.(I make no claim of being a MACevangelist, they just work for me.)
     
    Savageduck, May 29, 2007
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    Savageduck Guest

    Ok, I do still have options in the Canon World. What I was saying was
    the road I took into digital was Nikon, at a time I could have taken any
    direction. I had no particular bias. I could just as well have been
    writing about my Canon investment. For now my D200 works just fine.
    It is good to know if I find a bargain on a 5D I could use my Nikon glass.
    Thanks
     
    Savageduck, May 29, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Auto iso is a cheezy p&s replacement for VR.
     
    RichA, May 29, 2007
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    per Guest

    VR is no total fix for fast moving objects, and even though I have the new
    55-200VR lens, Sports Mode and Auto-ISO is a very good feature for sports,
    in order to always keep a large aperture and the shutter speed at optimum.
    /per
     
    per, May 29, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    VR is a fix for body and camera-induced image shake and low ISOs that
    can be responsible for shutters speeds that are too low, leading to
    the other two problems. In this case, an automatic mechanism that
    adjusts ISOs upward is an assist, but few people I know want the
    camera deciding on the ISO speed.
     
    RichA, May 29, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Actually a lot of shooters use Auto ISO but those with cameras that can do
    use set un upper limit when using this mode, something like 100-400 ISO
    works for me and for more general shooting I might let ist go up to ISO800.
    Or I just put the ISO adjustment on one of the thumbwheels, simply and it
    works on the fly quickly and I have full control.
     
    Pete D, May 29, 2007
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    Ton Maas Guest

    Didn't they come with a nifty loading device like the Kindermans? With
    that little thingy I always found loading them much easier than the
    "self-loading" Paterson spools.

    Ton
     
    Ton Maas, Jun 2, 2007
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  19. Pete D

    Savageduck Guest

    All of them were a pain. Loading by feel in the dark all that had to
    happen to get me all irritated was for the film to buckle and jump out
    of the groove and have to start all over.
    It's fine to be sentimental for the good old days, but I do not miss any
    of it. I much prefer dealing with today's problems, such as matching
    monitor color to printer output??
    Regards,
    'duck
     
    Savageduck, Jun 3, 2007
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