Kodak 6490 - Redeye Central

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by bd, Dec 26, 2003.

  1. bd

    bd Guest

    I've had this camera for a couple of weeks and it has taken some
    really nice landscape photos. I finally shot about 80 photos inside
    (of a party) and nearly every photo has glaring redeye - even with the
    redeye reduction turned on. Also, I noticed that the area closest to
    the flash is usually washed out.

    Is this a camera issue or a photographer issue?

    TIA
     
    bd, Dec 26, 2003
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    JK Guest

    A camera issue. Next time pay more, and get a camera with a
    more sensitive sensor and a lens that lets more light through,
    so you don't need to use the flash. The other choice is to use
    an off camera flash.
     
    JK, Dec 26, 2003
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  3. bd

    Trevor S Guest

    Both :)

    Try it leaving the flash off, it does a decent job without the flash as
    long as there is not to much movement ;) Experiment with manual mode at
    home as much as you want :)

    If using the onboard flash, try getting people to look over your shoulder
    to reduce red eye, not into the lens, this is simpily charesteritc of
    having the flash mounted so close to the lens, a feature of all cameras
    like this.

    Get a decent external flash might be another solution.

    --
    Trevor S


    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    -Albert Einstein
     
    Trevor S, Dec 27, 2003
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  4. bd

    Howard Guest

    I currently have a kodak dx4900 (4 mp) which is the same MP as the 6490
    I am toying with buying the same camera (not the one you own, however<g>)
    and still have a small doubt about shooting at the full 380 zoom!
    I also try to use the flash a little as possible.red eye being one of my
    concerns.
    After you get used to the camera and take a 100 pictures, if it not too
    inconvenient, PLEASE let me any pitfalls or what you DO NOT LIKE about
    it.....

    you may do it off this NG or post here, as I do check it often


    TIA and may the new year be good to you and yours

    h
     
    Howard, Dec 30, 2003
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    Paige Miller Guest

    On Stardate 12/30/2003 5:46 PM, the following keys were mysteriously
    typed at Howard's keyboard...
    I have taken over 1000 pictures with my Kodak DX 6490. Most of the time
    I like the results, and the camera is certainly very easy to use. With
    good lighting, or if you are within the flash's range, the camera takes
    excellent photos. I have had no real problems using the 10X optical
    zoom, even at 10X I get excellent photos, although it usually requires a
    tripod or leaning against a solid object to get really sharp pictures at
    10X.

    Some items I don't particularly like:

    1. At 30X (10X optical times 3X digital), I find a certain amount of
    fuzziness in the pictures (to be expected from digital zooms) and some
    artifacts (not expected) that are unpleasant sometimes. I have very few
    photos at 30X that I consider to be "good photos". Tripod required at 30X.

    2. In low light, I find that using Photoshop Elements to enhance the
    picture gives better representation of what I remember the actual colors
    to be (but of course, my memory may be mistaken). Otherwise, the colors
    seem somewhat washed out.

    3. Easyshare software is a very limited piece of software compared to
    others that I have looked at (and there are plenty of better packages
    out there that have free demos to check out).

    4. From what I have read here in the newsgroups, you will always get a
    certain amount of noise at higher ISO settings. However, compared to
    pictures posted by some at 1600 ISO from other cameras, I find the noise
    at 800 ISO via the Kodak DX6490 to be rather objectionable. Perhaps that
    isn't totally fair to compare high end Digital SLR photos at 1600 to a
    high end consumer non-SLR 800, but that's how I see it. Using Noise
    Ninja on the noisy 400 and 800 photos makes a huge improvement to my
    photos, however.

    --
    Paige Miller
    pmiller5 at rochester dot rr dot com
    http://home.rochester.rr.com/djpaige/blogger.html

    It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
    If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
    I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack
     
    Paige Miller, Dec 31, 2003
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  6. bd

    Paige Miller Guest

    Any time you use digital zoom, you are degrading the picture somewhat,
    and the particular way in which digital zoom works combines with JPEG to
    increase the artifacting. Lose/lose situation.[/QUOTE]

    So in the fantasy world of making whatever improvements you would want
    to the camera, what is the win/win solution? Having DX6490 save the raw
    image, not the JPEG image? I know this isn't a feature at this time, but
    would that help? Or is the win/win solution to eventually trade up to a
    digital SLR?
    Hey speak for yourself. I have implanted "rodent eyes" so I can see
    better in low light ...
    Right now I'm having fun with the freeware Adobe Photoshop Album Starter
    Edition; considering purchasing the full version.
    Nevertheless, it does make me want to consider getting a digital SLR at
    some point. I suppose none of the criticism I have made of the DX6490
    are unique to this particular camera; other similar cameras will have
    similar issues. Which is good to know, I'm still very pleased with this
    camera.

    --
    Paige Miller
    pmiller5 at rochester dot rr dot com
    http://home.rochester.rr.com/djpaige/blogger.html

    It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
    If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
    I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack
     
    Paige Miller, Dec 31, 2003
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    Dave Guest

    You know if you use the just the 10x optical zoom, you can make prints
    up to 20x30 inches, when you go into digital zoom, your largest print
    size is 4x6 inches.

    Now if you take a picture at 10x and crop it to the same size as what
    the 30x is you can make a 5x7 or maybe even a 8x10 if you have a good
    image.

    Your camera also has a 3rd type of zoom (as do all cameras), you can
    use your feet to get closer thus improving your image without using
    digital zoom.
     
    Dave, Dec 31, 2003
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  8. bd

    Paige Miller Guest

    On Stardate 12/31/2003 6:40 PM, the following keys were mysteriously
    typed at Dave's keyboard...
    These are good points. Thanks! As I am a relative beginner to digital
    photography, I was not aware of this fact. But I'm going to give what
    you say a try.
    In general, again this is a good point. Architecture, in the form of
    tall buildings, is a counter-example where you can only get so close
    before your feet fail to help further. Basketball and soccer are
    additional examples of situations where you can only get to a certain
    distance and then no closer ... there's that annoying line that you're
    not supposed to cross during a game, and there are those annoying
    security people who also don't want you moving in certain places at the
    side of the court or soccer pitch, and those players can be very
    insensitive to the needs of photographers and all run over to the other
    side of the field or court.

    While this newsgroup has been a wonderful source of information, and
    should continue to be so (and thanks to everyone here), I think I should
    start looking for some photography classes here in town. Or maybe, since
    I live in a town known for photography, I can hook up with an
    experienced photographer and spend some time going around town and
    taking photos together.

    --
    Paige Miller
    pmiller5 at rochester dot rr dot com
    http://home.rochester.rr.com/djpaige/blogger.html

    It's nothing until I call it -- Bill Klem, NL Umpire
    If you get the choice to sit it out or dance,
    I hope you dance -- Lee Ann Womack
     
    Paige Miller, Jan 1, 2004
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    Dave Guest

    You know what, With the grizzly bear, I would still use my feet! To
    get farther away from it...
     
    Dave, Jan 1, 2004
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