Kodak Supra Discontinued?

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by Bryan K, Oct 28, 2003.

  1. Bryan K

    Bryan K Guest

    Hi,

    I'm prepping for a trip and was going to bulk purchase another batch
    of Supra 100, 400. But I couldn't find Supra 100 at B&H. Then I read
    from photo.net that it's discontinued. Is this true?

    TIA,
    Bryan
     
    Bryan K, Oct 28, 2003
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    Bob Sull Guest

    Yes. Kodak, in it's infinite wisdom, cancelled it about a year ago.

    I was lucky and bought a bunch from B&H way back then.

    Kodak suggests Portra as a replacement. Good for them considering the cost.

    They, B&H, show three films that are supposed to be better replacements.

    #1 High Definition 200
    #2 Royal Supra 200 This was first announced in Europe and has
    pretty good reviews. It wasn't available in the US but B&H has
    it. It might be the same as the HD stuff.
    #3 Supra 200 Professional Haven't heard ofthis before so I "know
    nothinnnnnnnnnnng"


    Bob
     
    Bob Sull, Oct 28, 2003
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    Bandicoot Guest

    At a conference earlier this year a guy from Kodak UK told me Royal Supra
    was "basically the same film" - whatever that means. He said it was now
    jointly owned by the pro. and consumer divisions - hence the double name:
    'Royal' which is a consumer name and 'Supra' from the pro. side.

    I haven't tried any so don't know how similar to old Supra it is or isn't.

    No. 3 above is a new one on me - i'd guess it is just No. 2 but pre-aged -
    who knows?



    Peter
     
    Bandicoot, Oct 28, 2003
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    Luca Guest

    I write from europe.In my country kodak relase the new royal supra
    200/400/800
    800 is the same old supra, 200 is replace the old 100, the advantage is have
    the same grain of 100 whit + stop of sensibility.
    Bye
     
    Luca, Oct 28, 2003
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    Ed E. Guest

    Kodak suggests Portra as a replacement. Good for them considering the
    cost.

    I'd suggest a different replacement. Fuji. ;->
     
    Ed E., Oct 28, 2003
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    Waltavion Guest

    I've tried the 400 High Definition and it seems every bit as good as the Supra
    400 I had used previously. Haven't seen the 200 HD.

    Wa;t
     
    Waltavion, Oct 29, 2003
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    Rob Wild Guest

    That's interesting,

    In Aus we only have the 200 HD. The 400 HD has not as yet been released,
    and there is no mention of when it will be.

    Rob
     
    Rob Wild, Oct 29, 2003
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    Vin Guest

    Not sure, but I think they are still selling
    Royal Gold 100 and 400. Well, they were in
    Teds, Melbourne about a month ago. Are these
    not the same emulsions?
     
    Vin, Oct 29, 2003
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  9. Bryan K

    Rob Wild Guest

    I don't think so. Looking around at the pro places in Adelaide, I can
    only see the silvery HD packages in ISO 200, whereas I have seen
    packaging for the Royal Gold in the 100 & 400, but this could be just
    old stock as yet unsold.

    Rob
     
    Rob Wild, Oct 29, 2003
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  10. Bryan K

    Vin Guest

    Yes, those HD's (You need to have a look at the fine
    print to see that they are ISO 200) are everywhere at
    the moment, in all the Coles, Safeway (Woolworths),
    IGA's etc (If your not in Oz, these are just common
    supermarket chains). Seems to be aimed at the Consumer
    market like the Royal Golds were.

    Haven't tried them yet, anyone have any comments on
    them?

    Regards,
    Vin.
     
    Vin, Oct 29, 2003
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    JD Guest

    [SNIPPED HIS BULLSHIT]

    Bandicoot is a bastardly troll. Do not take his advice.
     
    JD, Oct 29, 2003
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    Larry Ng Guest

    Yes
    HD == Royal Gold
     
    Larry Ng, Oct 29, 2003
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  13. SNIP
    From what I've read: HD == Royal Supra.

    Royal Gold is a consumer grade film that's been around a longer time.

    Bart
     
    Bart van der Wolf, Oct 29, 2003
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    I have not tried Royal Supra 200 or 400, but I have tried
    High Definition 200 and 400. However, note that I bought only
    one roll of each, so my test is not statistically significant.

    Both were noticeably grainer than Portra 400UC, and somewhat
    higher contrast. Skin tones with HD400 were quite grainy.
    The performance of HD200 was an unpleasant surprise, because
    I had heard it could replace Royal Gold and Supra 100. Ha!!
    Although Royal Supra 200 might be better than this roll of
    (heat treated?) HD200 I got at Wolf Camera; I have seen scans
    of RS 200 that look quite fine-grained.

    Bottom line for me was to stock up on Portra 400UC. It's not
    much more expensive than HD400, although the NYC retailers
    do sell Royal Supra at lower cost.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 29, 2003
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  15. To add some confusion, Kodak Canada still sells Royal Gold
    (Supra discontinued, RS/HD not available). I used to use
    Supra 100 & 400, so this past summer I had to try alternatives.

    I didn't try the RG400, having heard that Portra 400UC was better,
    but my local shop was usually sold out.

    The RG200 is the newer RB-3 emulsion. Actually I was pleasently
    surprised. Admittedly it is not as sharp or saturated as Supra 100,
    but it is still pretty good, and I found the colours quite natural.
    I was happy with my scans as well.

    Maybe I just have low standards ;-)

    Doug
     
    Douglas O'Brien, Oct 29, 2003
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    Gregg Guest

    Yes it's true. Kodak does have several newer "replacement" emultions, but
    why not just go with the best all purpose 100 color neg film, Fuji Reala
    100
     
    Gregg, Oct 29, 2003
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  17. Bryan K

    Bryan K Guest

    I will, thanks
     
    Bryan K, Oct 30, 2003
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