Kodak Z612 Digital Camera

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by Lou, Feb 1, 2007.

  1. Lou

    Lou Guest

    I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a Kodak
    Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my cats and
    they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so I am
    using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory and I
    see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video clips, or
    a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card. I just
    looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards (Kodak
    brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes
    for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium"
    card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting
    married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding
    pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any
    thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
    appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!

    Regards,

    Lou
     
    Lou, Feb 1, 2007
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  2. Lou

    ray Guest

    I recently purchased a Kodak P850. I went to OfficeMax (or was it Staples)
    and bought a 1gb SD card for $20. I later got a 2gb SD from OfficeMax
    during their online Thanksgiving sale for $25. Works fine.
     
    ray, Feb 1, 2007
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  3. Lou

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    I'd respectfully suggest that the OP buy not one, but two cards.
    Perhaps three if the budget allows.

    Then during significant shoots, such as his boy's wedding, change cards
    once in a while, preferably during a lull in each of the events.
    (coming out of the church, shoot a few, change cards, and continue
    shooting)

    Just as it's unwise to put all of our eggs in one basket, it's also
    unwise to put all of our pics in one card :)

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Feb 2, 2007
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  4. Lou

    Lou Guest

    Thank you and the other persons who responded so well and quickly toi
    my Memory Card question on my new Kodak Z612. I love the pictures it
    takes and now I, like all of you get the 1GB SD Card from any of the
    local stores that run a good sale ... and thanks for the added clue
    that Kodak just attaches it name to a SD Card (as other companies do
    as well in their product lines).

    As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
    "Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
    so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.

    I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
    definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
    pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
    Card all the better!!

    Thanks again for the good information!

    Lou
     
    Lou, Feb 2, 2007
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  5. Lou

    ASAAR Guest

    In that case maybe you should find out if a slower card might
    cause video problems. Two things to look out for are first, that if
    a memory card is too slow to keep up, the saved video will have
    occasional dropouts. A slower card will have even more dropouts.
    The second problem I'd guess would be unlikely in a modern camera,
    but some older ones the didn't use fast memory cards would create
    dropout-free videos only until the camera's internal memory buffer
    was full, and would then stop recording and save whatever video was
    captured to that point, which might limit the video length to no
    more than a couple of minutes, if that.

    In other words, before shooting any videos that you won't have a
    second chance at, make sure that the card you use is fast enough. I
    noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
    which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
     
    ASAAR, Feb 3, 2007
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  6. Lou

    ASAAR Guest

    Video is more demanding than shooting long bursts of shots and
    moderately fast cards that may be adequate for still photography may
    still be too slow for video. Canon's manual for the A610/A620
    indicates that video recording can continue uninterrupted until the
    card is full or an individual clip uses 1GB of card memory,
    whichever comes first. It also implies that the supplied memory
    card is too slow (if not too small), adding:
    Nowhere do they say how fast this card is, or what speed is needed
    to prevent problems, so if the camera owner wants to try a non-Canon
    memory card, they do so at their own risk. What speed to you think
    that Canon's "super high-speed memory" actually is? 20x, 40x, 60x
    or really, *really* a lot faster? <g>
     
    ASAAR, Feb 3, 2007
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  7. Lou

    Cgiorgio Guest

    What is the cost of trying it out with a memory card you have in your
    possession? Probably half a battery charge, and 1 of about 100.000 possible
    read/write cycles on your card. The main problem with taking videos on a
    still camera is that the optical zoom does not work with most still cameras,
    which makes you end up with shorter video clips than what you would take on
    a dedicated video cam. Also Mpeg4 - compression is rather lossy when you
    have fast moving objects in your frame. I have tested taking video clips
    with a few current digicams on standard SD - cards (1 - 2 GB) which did not
    give any problems in 640 x 480 resolution, 30 fps with sound. Practically
    all current SD cards are fast enough to cope with this. Some "antique" chips
    were not, but they are no longer manufactured because they were also
    occupying more Silicon real estate than current high capacity ones. Still
    higher data rates than possible with the current memory chips can be
    obtained by using more than one memory array and an interleaving operation,
    which of course increases cost of such devices unless additional chips are
    needed anyway for capacity reasons like in the SDHC cards and other memory
    cards with 4 GB and more capacity. The camera interface has to support FAT32
    file systems in order to use such capacities and there are only a few on the
    market that do this so far.
     
    Cgiorgio, Feb 3, 2007
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  8. Lou

    ASAAR Guest

    Very little cost, but pointless, not only because I'm not
    interested in using my cameras to take videos, but also because the
    results I get with the cards in my Fuji or Canon cameras probably
    won't be of much use to the OP who has a Kodak Z612. If I did any
    testing it would probably be with the Fuji, and I'm sure that the
    high speed Type H xD cards would be more than fast enough. The
    standard xD card might be fast enough also, but my type M xD cards
    may not, since from what I've heard they're supposed to be fairly
    slow. Is anybody out there willing to fund these critical tests?
    It will take hours of my oh so valuable time and the extra cash
    could help speed up the purchase of my first DSLR. <g>
     
    ASAAR, Feb 3, 2007
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  9. Lou

    John Turco Guest

    Roy G wrote:


    Hello, Roy:

    Kodak-branded memory cards are made by Lexar, as the "God of the Big
    Yellow Box" clearly states, on its packaging. :-J


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 6, 2007
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  10. Lou

    John Turco Guest

    Lou wrote:


    Hello, Lou:

    Good luck! Being a big fan of Kodak digicams, myself, I'm confident that
    you'll be satisfied with the Z612.

    Incidentally, my local Wal-Mart recently started carrying "Impact" 1GB
    SD cards, at $19.74 USD, each; no sales events, nor rebates, needed.

    [Note: I'd bought one, at a different Wal-Mart store, a couple of months
    ago. Another shopper had thrown it into a clearance bin, apparently;
    lacking a price tag, I ran the Impact package's UPC under a bar scanner,
    which Wal-Mart had installed, for its customers' convenience.

    So, when it came up with $19.74, I mistakenly thought I'd stumbled upon
    a nice, juicy, closeout bargain! <g>]


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 6, 2007
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  11. Lou

    John Turco Guest

    ASAAR wrote:


    Hello, ASAAR:

    C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
    digicam?


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 6, 2007
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  12. Lou

    ASAAR Guest

    More than enough to be *very* useful. It's a tremendous help when
    you have several people speaking at the same time. The L & R
    elements in my old Sony ECM-909 microphone provides a lot of easily
    noticeable separation, and they're less than an inch apart. When
    the same conversations are recorded in mono, intelligibility goes
    down the drain. I suppose it's mostly due to the brain's ability to
    narrowly focus on sounds appearing to come from specific locations,
    ignoring sounds coming from surrounding locations, and it works
    quite well. If the little digicam's sound is deficient in any area
    it's probably not with its stereo ability but with it picking up
    motor and finger noise. An external mic. eliminates most of this.
    If you want to get a very nice mic., the ECM-907 replaced the 909
    several years ago, and I think adds a mono position to the
    wide/narrow stereo switch. It's not a "bowtie" clip-on type mic.,
    but has a small pedestal and uses a single long lasting AA battery.
     
    ASAAR, Feb 6, 2007
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  13. John Turco wrote:
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    The best stereo microphones have /zero/ separation, as they record sounds
    coming from different directions.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Feb 6, 2007
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  14. Lou

    ray Guest

    Interesting. I recall checking WM shortly before Thanksgiving. Manager
    asked if he could help me find anything. I simply queried how come they
    were selling 1gb SD cards for about $60 when OfficeMax and Staples had
    them for about $25. He just shrugged and said it had to be the same brand
    for them to price match. He asked what brand they were - I replied "who
    cares?"
     
    ray, Feb 6, 2007
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  15. Lou

    Ron Baird Guest

    Greetings Lou,

    Just browsing through the group and noticed your post.

    Just an FYI that your camera will work in a Z612 camera. Actually, you can
    find out more about SD cards by going to:

    http://www.sdcard.org

    Truth is, it is not possible for Kodak to test all brands and sizes of
    memory cards, but in general, all P, C, V, Z and ONE series Kodak EasyShare
    digital cameras will work properly with 2GB SD memory cards except the
    following models:

    C300; C310; C315; C530; CD50; C330; CD33

    These models will work properly with SD memory cards up to 1GB capacity.

    DX and CX 7000, 6000, 4000, 3000 and LS 700, 600 and 400 series Kodak
    EasyShare digital cameras were designed before 2GB cards were generally
    available and have not been tested to work with 2GB memory cards.

    If someone is reading this that is not sure, it might be a good idea to
    bring along your camera when you go to the store and try the type of card
    you are considering in your Kodak camera prior to purchasing. This way you
    will know for sure.

    Talk to you soon,

    Ron Baird
    Eastman Kodak Company
     
    Ron Baird, Feb 9, 2007
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  16. Lou

    ASAAR Guest

    If the DX6440 can't take videos, I'd tend to agree. Whether it
    can or can't, with a 2GB card you'd have more than enough free space
    to image a *lot* of the DX6440 owners that shoot videos. :)
     
    ASAAR, Feb 10, 2007
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  17. Lou

    John Turco Guest

    <edited, for brevity
    Hello, Ron:

    I never implied that Kodak doesn't plaster its own name, all over
    its Lexar-supplied stuff.

    [What is it about my "Kodak-branded" statement, which escapes your
    Getting stuck with a Hewlett-Packard digicam, at >any< price -- quite a
    "shuttering thought," no? Only thing more depressing, would be Sigma
    branching out into computers! :)


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 13, 2007
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  18. Lou

    John Turco Guest


    Hello, Ron:

    You and ASAAR might be right; I guess I was thinking in terms of musical
    recordings (and/or "Dolby Surround" movies, perhaps? <g>).


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 13, 2007
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  19. Lou

    John Turco Guest


    Hello, Ray:

    I just went to that "different Wal-Mart store" (adjacent to a Sam's
    Club), last Wednesday (2-7-07), and it had the "Impact" 1GB SD cards
    ($19.74), out in the open.

    In contrast, the "local Wal-Mart" keeps them behind locked, glass
    doors; although, strangely, they're right next to the name-brand
    products, many of which are simply locked onto hangers.

    Didn't buy anything, by the way. :-J


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Feb 13, 2007
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