Kodak's LS443 Camera *or* Kodak's Greediness at its Worst

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by enri, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Good luck with your repair project. Not many would attempt such a job.
    Let us know if you have success. I must assume your like the camera
    (nice feature set, and good pictures judging by online reviews) to go to
    this much trouble.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  2. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I have several film cameras, and have been making pictures with them
    since the late 1940's. I doubt that the total number of film pictures
    comes anywhere close to the 3000 or so digital photos I have made in the
    past 2.5 years. The cost of film, and processing for that many pictures
    would have been substantial. I still remember coming home from
    vacations and having to wait to see the pictures for when I had money to
    get them printed.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  3. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I expect to see substantial improvement in the technology regarding
    storage of pictures, downloading to the computer, in-camera processing,
    and battery life. Lens technology is also due for a breakthrough,
    according to some reports. Sensor size/number of pixels is a compromise
    as the files get larger, and they take longer to write to the card
    (already a problem with some cameras). Right now, the only complaints I
    have with my camera have to do with shot to shot time in the closeup mode.
    Still, a Wi-Fi ready camera would be a nice thing to have....
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  4. enri

    Boron Elgar Guest


    In those days (70s-80s,) I'd shoot color slides and only get printed
    what seemed worth it. I'd also take several B&W rolls, but those I'd
    print myself. Major trips to Europe entailed maybe 10-12 color rolls
    and 2 or 3 B&W.

    Now I travel with a laptop & download everything onto the HD each
    night.

    Boron
     
    Boron Elgar, Oct 5, 2005
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  5. enri

    Greg Goss Guest

    Friends of ours came back from a European vacation with one of those
    lead anti-x-ray bags stretched almost spherical, and a number of rolls
    loose in their carry-on. I think that they said that they had
    seventy-some rolls. So that's 1800 or so towards a 3000.
     
    Greg Goss, Oct 5, 2005
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  6. enri

    Greg Goss Guest

    Can't some of that stuff be done in parallel? Save twenty or so pix
    to fast RAM and try to catch up writing to the card in the background?

    I'm not a digicam user, and only a minimal snapshot user in the film
    world. Are these pictures done "click-click-click pause" or are there
    some contexts where you want thirty shots as fast as the sensor can
    receive them?
     
    Greg Goss, Oct 5, 2005
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  7. enri

    Boron Elgar Guest


    If you are buying that many rolls, they'd likely be 36 exposures. That
    calculates to 2520 for 70 rolls.

    Boron
     
    Boron Elgar, Oct 5, 2005
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  8. enri

    Boron Elgar Guest


    A lot of that depends on the camera you are using. There can be some
    serious hesitation before a shot on the lower end & some mid priced
    cameras. The cycle time also varies by the resolution of the picture
    you are taking.

    Boron
     
    Boron Elgar, Oct 5, 2005
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  9. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I haven't shot B&W since my Minox B broke after a stay on Guam in 1965.
    Color is so much nicer, in my opinion.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  10. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Wonder if they ever got them printed.... And how many people ever SAW
    them. Just about everything I take goes online so the family and
    friends, and anyone interested, can look at them.
    Getting 70 rolls printed would be a significant cost, for me.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  11. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    And about $500 to print them!
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  12. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Yes, in some cases. I can take up to 6 shots before the internal buffer
    ram fills and I have to wait until at least one shot gets written to the
    card. In closeup mode, the LCD is on, and it doesn't get freed up from
    one shot until the captured one is written to the card...
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  13. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    And the speed of the card, in some cases.
    Even some expensive cameras writing TIF to a slow card can take some
    significant time.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 5, 2005
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  14. enri

    Boron Elgar Guest

    It is not a matter of one being "nicer," than the other, though a
    person may certainly have a preference for shooting and collecting,
    but my B&W days were devoted to the darkroom side of it. Color prints
    were too messy and expensive to play with, as far as I was concerned.

    I still shoot B&W with my digital, but instead of the darkroom, I play
    with it in a program or two.

    Boron
     
    Boron Elgar, Oct 5, 2005
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  15. enri

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I have done both in the darkroom, developing and printing, but it is not
    something I want to mess with any more. I am a very color focused
    person, so B&W doesn't do anything for me. I can appreciate the artist
    merits of some such photos, but I find them lacking from an enjoyment
    point of view.
    I know a guy who does marvelous paintings using a 1 hair brush, and only
    straight lines of different lengths, and widths. It is interesting, and
    I appreciate his talent, but I enjoy his sister's vivid watercolors more.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 6, 2005
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  16. enri

    SoCalMike Guest

    at least they had the foresight to get into digital early, which is one
    reason theyre still around and polaroid isnt.
    the CD burners that came out a couple years later didnt help, either. i
    just tossed 2 1996-era zip drives with cables and about 15 disks.
    neither had "the click", but neither was worth anything. guess i coulda
    craigslisted em.
    heh... research the V6/automatic debacle as it pertains to some late
    90s-2002 odysseys and accords.
    agreed, and i dont see their products as being as good as even a common
    HP camera.
     
    SoCalMike, Oct 6, 2005
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  17. enri

    SoCalMike Guest

    easier (to me) to just yank the SD card and load it into the reader.
     
    SoCalMike, Oct 6, 2005
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  18. enri

    SoCalMike Guest

    besides, the 2.1Mpixel you dropped $500 on a few years ago is obsolete
    compared to an equally priced 7Mpixel today.
     
    SoCalMike, Oct 6, 2005
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    mattack Guest

    I admit that I haven't followed this thread (nor the followup one),
    but my immediate reaction to this part is -- check your state's laws.

    At least California has a law that companies MUST have parts for products
    for X years after they were last sold. (I believe the number is 7 years,
    but I know absolutely it's more than 3 years.)
     
    mattack, Oct 6, 2005
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  20. enri

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Civil code section 1793.03
     
    Ray Fischer, Oct 6, 2005
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