Konica Minolta calls it a day

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Siddhartha Jain, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Siddhartha Jain, Jan 19, 2006
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  2. Bad news indeed. Sony has been trying hard to damage its own name in the UK
    and elsewhere : -

    - malware on music CD's to interfere with PC operation

    - proprietary (& incompatible) interfaces and accessories (e.g. memory
    stick, Autrac...)

    - served with an ASBO (withdrawn after undertakings)

    - higher prices than similar companies

    OTOH in some areas Sony is ahead of the pack

    - small differential between US and UK prices (unlike say the 250%
    difference with Yamaha)

    - world-wide warranty that is honoured
    R. Mark Clayton, Jan 19, 2006
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  3. Siddhartha Jain

    mrsgator88 Guest

    Thats for sure. I have a 2002 model Vaio laptop with a memory stick slot,
    but it won't read the the new memory stick PRO I just bought with my new
    Sony P&S! I went to the Sony website, downloaded 3 programs that were
    supposed to fix this.... and it still doesn't work. But somehow, I can just
    slide this memory stick into a $99 Epson printer and it works fine! Sony
    products just aren't what they used to be.

    mrsgator88, Jan 19, 2006
  4. Siddhartha Jain

    SMS Guest

    Too bad. The 7D and 5D were decent D-SLRs, with the built in image
    stabilization. But with Canon and Nikon having 98% market share in
    D-SLRs, it's not possible for companies like KM, Pentax, and Olympus to
    survive in the D-SLR business.

    The new Samsung digital SLR uses the Pentax lens mount, which may
    breathe some new life into Pentax.
    SMS, Jan 19, 2006
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    DFS Guest


    I was hoping for a replacement for the A200 to be announced at PMA show next
    month. :eek:(

    Guess I'll order one up today. Sony R1 was next choice, but it's too darn

    DFS, Jan 19, 2006
  6. I'm thinking that all the small DSLR makers would be smart to
    standardize on one lens mount and flash interface.
    Albert Nurick, Jan 19, 2006
  7. Sony compete with Canon or Nikon, that's a good one.


    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    John A. Stovall, Jan 19, 2006
  8. Siddhartha Jain

    SMS Guest

    But their whole perspective is that they don't have to come up with all
    new lenses and flashes, just a new body (except for 4:3). 4:3 is doomed,
    so that leaves the Pentax or Konica-Minolta mount. Then you just need a
    few hundred million to tool up for all new lenses.
    SMS, Jan 19, 2006
  9. And the market has spoken on that strategy. Only Nikon and Canon have
    a big enough system. The little guys need to work together to build a
    system with critical mass to compete.
    Agreed. Dumb idea.
    Which could/should be spread over several makers. I wonder if Sony
    will consider licensing the mount to other DSLR makers?
    Albert Nurick, Jan 19, 2006
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    G.T. Guest

    The latter two are nice but #1 above is a big reason I'll not be buying Sony
    anything in the future.

    This is a sad announcement made worse by the fact that Sony is picking up
    some of the business.

    G.T., Jan 19, 2006
  11. Siddhartha Jain

    SMS Guest

    Actually, it might be a strategic move if Nikon or Canon licensed their
    mount. The big money is in lenses, and the after-market lenses from
    Tamron, Sigma, etc., are not great. It could mean a big increase in lens
    sales, which might offset the loss in body sales.
    SMS, Jan 19, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    It's too bad. Their technology should migrate to Sony under the deal
    though, so in-camera anti-shake will probably remain.
    I have fond memories of my Minolta XD-11, arguably one of the best
    of the first generation of automatic SLRs.
    Rich, Jan 19, 2006
  13. Siddhartha Jain

    Rich Guest

    Sony could turn around and just buy Nikon if it wanted to.
    Who knows? You could see Sony as the number 2 company
    at some point.
    Rich, Jan 19, 2006
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    Slack™ Guest

    They ^ are next.
    Slack™, Jan 20, 2006
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    Stacey Guest

    SMS wrote:

    That's why olympus is selling so many E500's.
    Stacey, Jan 20, 2006
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    G.T. Guest

    Not enough to not be the next K-M.

    G.T., Jan 20, 2006
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    zeitgeist Guest

    Sony doesn't seem to have a history of licensing their proprietary stuff.

    Beta Max was a superior system to VHS but they wouldn't license it to
    competition, so they made their own and sold the VCR market out from under
    their feet.
    zeitgeist, Jan 20, 2006
  18. Siddhartha Jain

    Tony Polson Guest

    Pentax are financially very strong, with excellent profits and a very
    buoyant share price. There is not the slightest suggestion that
    Pentax could be "next". Indeed, their strategic alliance with one of
    the world's largest and most innovative electronic manufacturers
    should give Pentax users great hopes for the future.
    Tony Polson, Jan 20, 2006
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    Brian Guest

    I'm still happy with my SRT 101, been going for over 30 years. Hope
    I'll still be able to get film soon!


    (For email change closed to open)
    Brian, Jan 20, 2006
  20. Siddhartha Jain

    Clyde Guest

    Why? You don't think Sony has enough money to work with? They don't
    know how to market? Is it that Sony has no record of success?

    I remember when no one thought that Canon could ever penatrate Nikon's
    hold on the professional market. I remember when people laughed at
    Microsoft for Excel and Word; after all the standards were 1-2-3 and
    WordStar, why would we ever use anything else?

    Don't forget that Sony, Canon, Nikon, and any company is not in the
    business to make cameras. They are in business to make MONEY. They make
    money by selling to the market(s) that will make the most overall
    profit. Sony obviously thinks they will make more money by taking over
    Konica Minolta's camera business.

    It appears that they think they will make more money by ONLY taking
    over KM's DSLR business. Therefore, they are probably aiming directly
    at Canon and Nikon. I doubt very much that Sony is at all afraid of
    Canon and Nikon. Sony has shown an attitude and history of trying to
    corner every market they compete in. Why wouldn't they do the same in
    the DSLR business?

    Of course, they may not succeed at this, but I bet they will try. Based
    on their history, the odds are pretty good that they can succeed.

    Clyde, Jan 20, 2006
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