Lab survey for slide, CN and digital shooters -- B/W too!

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Tony Spadaro, Jan 5, 2004.

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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    So I put together a survey in about 5 minutes and it only recieved
    answers from slide users. I've now taken an hour to put together what I hope
    will be a more useful survey involving all sorts of film and digital capture
    too.
    If you answered teh first survey please take the time to do this one too
    as it is much more complete. No matter what you shoot, please try to answer
    all the questions even if it means looing up services in the phone book as
    this will give a more complete picture of the situation. I will answer the
    questions mayself in a separate post. And of course, remember this will ALL
    be on the final, so if you want that sheepskin -- oops! Wrong test.

    The Great 2004 Lab Survey of 2004

    1) Do you shoot slide film?
    2) Can you get it processed to good quality locally?
    3) How long does it take to get to that lab?
    4) How much do they charge for 36 exp mounted?
    5) How long does it take from dropoff to finished slides?

    6) Do you shoot Colour Negative film?
    7) Can you get it processed to good quality prints locally?
    8) How long to get to that lab?
    9) How much do they charge for 36 exposures single print 4x6?
    10) How long does it take from drop off to finished prints?

    11) Do you shoot digital?
    12) Can you have good quality prints made locally?
    13) How long to get to that lab?
    14) How much do they charge per print?
    15) How long does it take from dorpoff to finished prints?

    16)What size city - in thousands do you live in?
    17) Is it part of a major metropolitan area?
    (ie Newark NJ - is in a roughly 15 megaperson area)
    18) Country and/or Continent?
    19) Tourist destination?
    Yes? No? To a degree?
    20) Hotbed area of advertising?
    Some areas (like Atlanta, Ga) wouldn't seem likely but there are a
    lot of ads generated there.
    21) Hotbed of mail order processing?
    Like Texas where so many labs are located because of the effluent
    laws, and L.A. where there are still a lot of big labs cranking out movie
    film.

    Take your time. Try to be truethful. Don't peek and anyone else's
    answers, and I hope you went to the bathroom before you came into this....
    sorry - back on the wrong test.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 5, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Answered by secret shooter #1 - I know who I am, but who are you?
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 5, 2004
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    Paul Rubin Guest

    1) not lately, 2) yes, 3) drugstore a few blocks away, pro lab across town
    4) don't know, maybe $7 last time I checked? 5) 1 hour to 2 days depending
    6-10) same as for slides but cost is a little higher and there may be
    more on-premises processing available
    11) yes, 12) yes, 13) hmm, maybe 10 minutes (Ritz camera store),
    14) don't know, 15) 5 minutes (do-it-yourself kiosk at the store)
    Large US city/metro area.
     
    Paul Rubin, Jan 5, 2004
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Hopefully, you can tabulate and share the results.
    .. . . . . . . . expression for toilet in English?? . . . . . .
    10 to 30 minutes, depending upon traffic and parking.
    Under 3 hours, often much faster (depends upon volume).
    Several choices, though usually same lab.
    Same, or less for other labs.
    $3.20 processing. I never get 4"x6" prints.
    Maybe one hour, sometimes next day, again depending upon volume.
    Difficult, and sometimes expensive.
    30 minutes or more.
    Varies too much to be specific, though about 10% to 50% more than conventional.
    Discounts available for quantity prints. I have high standards for final
    results, which are difficult to satisfy at many places.
    Three to ten days turnaround, but I only get large sizes, or quantity prints.
    I think just under 3 million population.
    Density? San Diego downtown area is heavily populated, but not crowded. Not
    sparse either.
    United States / North America
    Mostly seasonal, or convention driven.
    I wish, then I would have more work.
    Unfortunately, most of it passes here, and lands in Los Angeles.
    I know we have one very large B/W lab in the north part of the county. However,
    they do not do direct work, only through other places. There may also be a
    large wedding imagery place, but not entirely sure, since I do not do that kind
    of work.

    Los Angeles is too close, so many things still get sent there. Often the costs
    are better as well.
    Oh . . . . so that is what "looing" meant. ;-)
    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Jan 5, 2004
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    stacey Guest

    Yep, everytime if I did my job right.
    5 minutes
    2 hours
    Sometimes at one lab that is fast, always at another that is slow.
    15 minutes to the faster lab, 30 minutes to the better one.
    $18 at both.
    2-3 days at the lab that does the best job of kodak pro film, 2-4 hours from
    a fuji machine on crystal archive, yuck!
    Not really. 2MP camera.
    15 minutes
    More than film..
    Same as film but still use fuji crystal archive (yuck!)
    Atlanta GA
    Not really
    If you say so..
    Don't think so..
     
    stacey, Jan 5, 2004
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  6. I use a mail service. I could go to central London or other areas near
    to me, but it would take a lot more time and cost more.
    30 seconds to post box. 45 minutes to central London labs. Somewhere in
    between for local labs
    £3.50 unmounted. I never get them mounted (can never understand why
    anyone would) but I think that's £4.75

    What that is in $ depends on how far it's fallen since I wrote this, but
    at the time of writing that would be $6.27 and $8.51. P&P for return
    films is free. Of course, I have to pay postage to send, but don't have
    to pay travel costs to get there, so call that a wash.
    48 Hours (return of post, every time).
    Vary rarely - in fact not for years. My wife does.
    Prints seem mediocre to me, but my wife seems happy.
    20 minutes.
    About £7 for routine on-site prints. For an extra £1 they will check
    exposure for each print. They will send to Kodak for less (but takes a
    couple of days.
    Say 3 hours?
    Probably, but never tried. Do my own.
    Greater London.
    Where does it end? Say 10-15 million (sorry, "megapersons").
    UK, Europe.
    Yes - in central London. Tourists rarely find their way out to the
    suburban areas, though.
    Yes, rather!
    Most mail order processing takes place well away from London - land
    prices are just too high here (and most other prices come to that).
    So where were the B&W questions?
     
    David Littlewood, Jan 5, 2004
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  7. 2 hours on weekdays, sometimes a day on weekends.
    Yes--15 mperson
    Not that I know of




    Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


    Does one child rape really change Strom Thurmond's lifetime record?
    For better or worse?
     
    Rodney Myrvaagnes, Jan 5, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest

    NOTE: We have electronic services for printing, so "dropoff" does not
    require a visit. Pickup is a roundtrip and mail/courier is offered as well.
    Why wouldn't we be truthful?
     
    Alan Browne, Jan 5, 2004
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  9. 10 minutes by foot.
    About $8.
    4-6 hours is standard.
    Same lab...10 minutes.
    Not sure offhand.
    4-6 hours or fewer.
    USA - NA.
    No.
     
    Scott Norwood, Jan 5, 2004
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    Jim Waggener Guest

    yes, within 30 miles of 1.5 million metro area
     
    Jim Waggener, Jan 5, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    There are numerous agencies in Atlanta - my daughter worked for several
    over the years and even moved to Atlanta because her husband wanted to work
    for bigger agencies than exist in Boston. They have now moved on to Texas
    and BIGGER agencies and are prolly going to end up in LA. But there is
    plenty of advertising generated in Atlanta.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 5, 2004
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    Nick James Guest

    $NZ20 (13USD)
    24 hours

    1 Hour

    6x4 NZ$1 (67c US)
    12x8 NZ$10 (6.70 USD)
    1 hour for small prints, normally overnight for larger prints

    No
     
    Nick James, Jan 5, 2004
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    Nikkorguy Guest

    The Great 2004 Lab Survey of 2004

    1) Do you shoot slide film?

    Sometimes

    2) Can you get it processed to good quality locally? Yes

    3) How long does it take to get to that lab? about 10 minutes

    4) How much do they charge for 36 exp mounted? $8.00

    5) How long does it take from dropoff to finished slides? 2 hrs....less if I
    whine

    6) Do you shoot Colour Negative film? Sometimes

    7) Can you get it processed to good quality prints locally? Yes

    8) How long to get to that lab? 10 minutes

    9) How much do they charge for 36 exposures single print 4x6? $15.00

    10) How long does it take from drop off to finished prints? Next day

    11) Do you shoot digital? Yes

    12) Can you have good quality prints made locally? Yes

    13) How long to get to that lab? 20 minutes

    14) How much do they charge per print? $0.18 for a 4x6

    15) How long does it take from dorpoff to finished prints? about an hour or so

    16)What size city - in thousands do you live in? 500,000
    17) Is it part of a major metropolitan area?
    (ie Newark NJ - is in a roughly 15 megaperson area)
    Yes, approx. 1.2 million

    18) Country and/or Continent?United States

    19) Tourist destination?
    Yes? No? To a degree?No

    20) Hotbed area of advertising?
    Some areas (like Atlanta, Ga) wouldn't seem likely but there are a
    lot of ads generated there.
    More than one would think

    21) Hotbed of mail order processing? There is a large portrait lab in town that
    does a lot of mail order business.

    Frank
     
    Nikkorguy, Jan 5, 2004
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    Dallas Guest

    Tony Spadaro said:

    Yes, occasionally. But I prefer slide guitar, which I have been playing a
    lot of lately.
    About 20 minutes drive. It's on the other side of town.
    In my money, about thirty bucks, which is about five bucks in your money.
    Generally they can turn them around in about 120 minutes.
    Too much.
    You didn't already know this?
    Geez, about 10 minutes.
    For me, I can get a 15x10cm print for just over two bucks (divide by 6.5
    for American equivalent).
    As long as I stand around and irritate the operator and manager, I can get
    then within about 20 minutes.
    Last time I checked our Metropolitan population was about 3.5 million,
    including the suburbs and townships.
    South Africa. Africa. Just South West of Madagascar, North of Antarctica.
    Unfortunately only to SA citizens who come here for the summer holidays
    and who cause carnage on the roads and chaos on the beaches.
    Not really. That's more of a Cape Town thing.
    Aikhona. No. Enough widda queshuns already!
    This was a test? Did I pass?
     
    Dallas, Jan 6, 2004
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    stacey Guest

    So?

    BTW like the results of this survey better yet? :)
     
    stacey, Jan 6, 2004
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  16. Actually, it did not. I shoot both chromes and CN routinely.
    Yes and no. I've stopped playing the odds.
    8-10 minutes.
    2 hours.
    15-20 minutes
    $14.50 for 'club members'.
    A few hours.
    15-20 minutes.
    About 10% more than CN prints.
    Not especially. Orlando 1 hour distant, Titusville (Cape Canaveral)
    40 minutes.
    To a small degree.
    No.

    And the unasked questions go unanswered...


    - Al.
     
    Al Denelsbeck, Jan 6, 2004
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  17. Oh, yeah! I'm north of Antarctica too...


    - Al.
     
    Al Denelsbeck, Jan 6, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Haven't started to tabulate it as I figure on waiting until about Thursday -
    but there are people who shoot CN film answering so I expect to get a fairly
    realistic picture of the lab situation in the real world -- I'm thinking of
    running the same survey next year too to see what sort of changes there are.
    I expect next year to have a lot more digital answers.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 6, 2004
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  19. 15-20 minute drive
    Don't use them very often since I have a mail lab I prefer but I recall it's
    around 4-5 quid
    Depends on Traffic/Time of Day since it's in the city centre (usually around
    30 mins (or 40 mins on the train))
    6 quid I think
    1 Hour (but Robin Williams doesn't work there ;^))
    I think I may have bagged a couple of shots of DSLR using his EOS10D if that
    counts
    a couple of thousand
    area)
    Yes, just outside Southampton
    Well, it's the departure point for most Transatlantic Cruises
    Not particularly
     
    Tony Parkinson, Jan 6, 2004
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  20. Group: rec.photo.equipment.35mm Date: Mon, Jan 5, 2004, 4:52am (CST+6)
    From: (Tony Spadaro)
                                            The
    Great 2004 Lab Survey of 2004

    1) Do you shoot slide film?
    Yes

    2) Can you get it processed to good quality locally?
    Yes

    3) How long does it take to get to that lab?
    About 15 min.

    4) How much do they charge for 36 exp mounted?
    About $8

    5) How long does it take from dropoff to finished slides?
    They usally tell me to come back in about 24 hrs.

    6) Do you shoot Colour Negative film?
    Yes

    7) Can you get it processed to good quality prints locally?
    Yes

    8) How long to get to that lab?
    15 min.

    9) How much do they charge for 36 exposures single print 4x6?
    I'm not sure, I usally take print film to Walmart for about $4.

    10) How long does it take from drop off to finished prints?
    About 3 days at Walmart - No more than 24 hrs. at lab.

    11) Do you shoot digital?
    No.

    12) Can you have good quality prints made locally?
    13) How long to get to that lab?
    14) How much do they charge per print?
    15) How long does it take from dorpoff to finished prints?

    16)What size city - in thousands do you live in?
    N. Little Rock , Arkansas - Not sure about population.

    17) Is it part of a major metropolitan area?              
              (ie Newark NJ - is in a roughly 15 megaperson area)
    I reckon.

    18) Country and/or Continent?
    USA

    19) Tourist destination?
            Yes? No? To a degree?
    No.

    20) Hotbed area of advertising?
                      Some areas (like
    Atlanta, Ga) wouldn't seem likely but there are a lot of ads generated
    there.
    I don't think so.

    21) Hotbed of mail order processing?
                        Like Texas
    where so many labs are located because of the effluent laws, and L.A.
    where there are still a lot of big labs cranking out movie film.
    No.

    Cody Houston®

    http://community-2.webtv.net/AnOvercomer02/PhotographyLinks
     
    AnOvercomer02, Jan 6, 2004
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