Lag between pressing button and having picture captured. Film vs DSLR.

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Scott, Jul 30, 2003.

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    Scott Guest

    I have been looking at some digitals, and have wondered about one thing;
    when I take a pic with 35mm, it is click - next frame ready. (Or click
    click click if I moved the shooting selector) What is the lag with the
    higher end DSLRs? Or the ones that burn onto a mini cd?

    I would prefer to ask the film group, as the comparison is vs. film cameras,
    of which they, meaning you, know more. Hopefully. :)

    Scott, Jul 30, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Good SLR's have shutter lags on the order of 1/10 second or better in
    Manual mode, some like the EOS-1v go as low as about 1/20 of a second.

    In some modes, such as pre-flash, there is an additional lag on the
    order of another 1/20 second.

    Alan Browne, Jul 30, 2003
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    Nighthawk Guest

    My girlfriend bought a lower end canon digital.
    I've noticed the same thing happens with her, she/I can hit the button,
    there's a 1 second (or so) delay and then the picture gets taken.
    It uses a compact flash card.
    This unfortunately cost her some nice shots while we were whale watching
    a few weekends ago, fortunately there were 2 of us (myself and our
    friend) that are faithful film fans and got some nice captures.
    Nighthawk, Jul 30, 2003
  4. As both an EOS 10D and EOS3 user I can confirm that there is no noticeable
    difference in practice when using EF lenses - providing that the subject has
    been captured by the AF system (in One Shot mode). It's faster in MF mode.
    (Similarly my Nikon CP775 and CP4500 can capture subjects very quickly, but only
    after acquiring initial focus lock.)
    With USM lenses both the 10D and EOS3 can normally capture subjects as fast as I
    can react. (It's obviously very different if I'm using a macro lens and
    starting at the wrong end of its travel.)
    Malcolm Stewart, Jul 30, 2003
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    Patrick L. Guest

    With my E-10, as long as you have locked in your focus first (half press
    shutter and hold), the shutter lag when fully depressing the shutter is
    hardly noticeable, comparable to my Canon Eos cameras. If you are factoring
    in autofocus time, as well, my Canon EOS cameras, and the Nikon's I've tried
    are much faster, overall. My Elan has a servo mode which has predictive
    autofocus, much better for shooting moving things. My Oly does not have
    this. So for sports, and action, I will always use the Elan.

    I don't know about the Mavicas, if that is what you are referring to, but I
    have not heard anything good about the non SLR digitals, regarding shutter
    lag. I talked to someone who had a Nikon Coolpix, 995, and he was very
    dissatisfied about shutter lag.

    Patrick L., Jul 30, 2003
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    StillMan Guest

    With pro DSLRs you are buying speed and durability, just like with film
    cameras, plus low noise sensors. The less money you spend on a digital
    camera, the slower it will operate and/or the noisier the photos will be.

    Shutter lag on my D1 and D1X seems as fast to me as my F100. I think the
    specs say they are actually a few milliseconds slower, but I can not tell
    the difference. People going for "ball on bat" in pro baseball say they can
    tell the difference.

    Shot to shot on the D series is 5 (D1) or 3 (D1X) per second until the
    buffer is full, then you have to wait for at least one pic to be fully
    written to the card before you can take another pic. The new D2H will be 8
    fps, with a huge buffer. The D100 is as slow as the N80 and has a rather
    small buffer.

    Point and shoot digicams are as slow or slower than P&S film cameras. There
    are different ways they auto focus. Infrared gets focus distance
    immediately, but moves the lens to focus after the button is pushed.
    Contrast detect AF moves the lens to get focus, so the "post focus" release
    is quicker, but it takes longer to acquire focus. Neither are good solutions
    if catching fleeting action is an issue. Prefocus will not help with the
    infrared type, but makes it better on a contrast detect system.

    StillMan, Jul 30, 2003
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    Scott Elliot Guest

    There is no noticeable difference between the shutter lag on my Canon EOS 3
    film camera and Canon D60 digital SLR.

    BUT - If you don't have the digital camera turned on there is a longer wait
    after you turn it on until you can start shooting AND - If you take a few
    shots with the digital camera and take your finger off the shutter button,
    there will be a delay while the images are being saved before you can take
    any more shots.

    Scott Elliot
    Scott Elliot, Jul 31, 2003
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    Jan Keirse Guest

    My Fuji Finepix 2800z takes the picture almost instantly when you hit the
    button, the problem is that after the photo is taken it takes quite a while
    before the camrea is ready to take the next shot, the delay is TO long when
    using the flash, it is reasonably but very noticable when not using the flash.
    Notice that this is a consumer class camera, with hardly any manual settings
    (but it was the best I could afford and at the time I bought it, I didn't really
    know the influence of eg. aperture...)
    Go to and have a look at the reviews of the Nikon D2H,
    Olympus E1, Canon Eos 10D (and if you have a hell lot of money 1Ds). All DSLR's
    I'd love to have ;-)
    Jan Keirse, Jul 31, 2003
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    Jan Keirse Guest

    Oh yeah, something I have to add, I almost always focus before shooting, in dim
    light focusing takes quite some time, normally its very fast. And euwm, I'd
    never use my digital camera for action photography, but then, I don't really
    have a camera that I'd really be happy to use for it, due to a too small
    budget... (Maybe I should have bought a decent SLR instead of a digicam,
    but I didn't know half a year ago, I've come a long way, and I probably have
    much much bigger way to go, but that's ok, because it's a very beautiful one ;-)
    Jan Keirse, Jul 31, 2003
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