LCD screens

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Theo, Aug 26, 2004.

  1. Theo

    Theo Guest

    Hi all

    In the near future I will be looking into replacing my old reliable apple
    monitor with an LCD and I am curious how much the different aspect ration
    alters things. I would hope that the same sized image is not just stretched
    over a larger width, but I dont know. Any thoughts?

    Thx
     
    Theo, Aug 26, 2004
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    Drifter Guest

    It's not a problem.

    Drifter
    "I've been here, I've been there..."
     
    Drifter, Aug 26, 2004
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    Arty Facting Guest

    Personally I prefer a flat screen anyway

    Working with LCDs or TFT can make CRT seem like golf balls

    Arty
     
    Arty Facting, Aug 26, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    And working with LCD/TFT screens can make you tear your hair out
    trying to get a decent colour match :)
     
    Hecate, Aug 27, 2004
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  5. Theo

    Theo Guest

    Since I suffer from male pattern baldness so I wouldnt worry about that.
    ;o)

    From what Ive read last couple days it sounds like graphics professionals
    should be extremely choosey about what LCDs to try. And even then to
    consider one of those hardware devices that allows for greater manipulation
    of the screen... the name eludes me. Im not a pro (yet), and dont have the
    money for really expensive models or extra equipment. Plus Ive been looking
    at wireless mp3 players and external storage media... but those would be
    just toys. decisions decisions.
     
    Theo, Aug 27, 2004
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    Nig Guest

    Tell me about it. I have had a TFT Samtron 75v and even after playing with
    the settings and stuff, I still cannot get a match. Different programs vary
    greatly from PS (6.0). I have to make allowances all the time which normally
    results in a greying out effect when printin out. Pain in the ass!

    Nig
     
    Nig, Aug 27, 2004
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    Glo8al Guest

    You should try a Ezio FlexScan L985EX.
    We have these on all our work stations now. Use a eyeone to calibrate
    with profilemaker 5.
    You can see 1% colour shifts in white. We never saw that on any CRT.
     
    Glo8al, Aug 27, 2004
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    Ed Clarke Guest

    Yes, that's a nice monitor. For $3000 it should be nice... and then you
    buy an eyeone to calibrate it. That's Eizo by the way.
     
    Ed Clarke, Aug 27, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    Everyone should try an Eizo Flexscan, and probably would if they
    didn't have to mortgage their house to buy one ;-)

    Gretag Macbeth products are great though ;-)
     
    Hecate, Aug 27, 2004
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    SuperBLUE Guest

    I was considering an Apple 30" LCD
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    SuperBLUE, Aug 29, 2004
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    Glo8al Guest

    Well do you want a monitor to do a great job or a shitty CRT or semi
    decent LCD?
    As I want to get the job done right the first time, it saves me time
    and money.
     
    Glo8al, Aug 30, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    For that money I could have 3 24 inch Sony CRT's. I know which I
    prefer.
     
    Hecate, Aug 31, 2004
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  13. Theo

    Glo8al Guest

    Well if you want to waste your time and money on out dated CRT's, you
    can.
    I can tell you the $2200AU (we got 5 at once) was well worth the
    money, and have saved a lot of time doing my colour corrections only
    once.
     
    Glo8al, Aug 31, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    Funny that, I never have to do my colour corrections more than once
    either. That's a skill factor, not a monitor factor.

    I realise you have to justify spending all that money however...
     
    Hecate, Sep 1, 2004
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    Glo8al Guest

    ROFLMAO

    I am 100% sure if you were doing the job I do, you would be doing more
    than one.
    Working in a output print shop to both RGB and CMYK devices, being
    limited to the colour ranges of each device, getting files from every
    type of digital or analogue device. Working with artist and HCS
    students sitting next to you.

    I think you need to see what you are doing with out the time wasted
    guessing, and trying to explain to the client why your monitor doesn't
    look like the print they are holding in their hands.

    If I was doing my own work, or a arrogant know it all, sure you get
    use to what you are looking at.
     
    Glo8al, Sep 2, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    You don't require guesswork with proper colour management.
     
    Hecate, Sep 3, 2004
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  17. Theo

    Glo8al Guest

    mmm
    colour management

    scan it in, scan looks like what you have on screen, which outputs the
    same as the scan and what it looks like on screen.

    I would say that is colour management. Only colour corrections we have
    to make is because is was scanned somewhere else who has NFI or the
    client doesn't like their original.
     
    Glo8al, Sep 6, 2004
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    Mike Russell Guest

    A mathmatically pure path from reality to printed page. This is the
    unfulfilled dream of color management. Calibrationism is as appealing to
    logic as it is defied by experience.

    Many, of not most of, the very best images - those with rich color and
    contrast that jump off the page, are still produced by using the info
    palette to judge neutrals and color, and using appropriate tools, notably
    curves, to emphasize luminance and color where it matters the most.

    Only a human can make any decision that hinges on interpreting the image and
    anticipating and judging the esthetic result. Photographers and others who
    do not take full advantage of this new ability are being outshone by those
    who do.
     
    Mike Russell, Sep 6, 2004
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    Fred Athearn Guest

    There is sort of a fight going on in the art photo world.

    I was at an art fair in Ann Arbor and I noticed that some of the
    photographers said that they used Photoshop and explained how they
    used fancy ink jet printers.

    Others made a big deal of saying that they did everything in a
    darkroom and never used any digital stuff.
     
    Fred Athearn, Sep 7, 2004
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    Hecate Guest

    OK, so you don't understand colour management. That explains a lot.
     
    Hecate, Sep 7, 2004
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