Leica M6 TTL vs non TTL

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Photo, Dec 5, 2003.

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    Photo Guest

    If you don't like Leica and you are not going to say anything useful, please
    cut the message :)

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    I keep on finding a mechanical Leica and I found a new Leica M6 non TTL. I
    was wondering if it is that important the TTL feature, or you can survive
    without it. The camera is not going to be used with flash most of the time,
    so I guess it should not be a problem.
     
    Photo, Dec 5, 2003
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    A really good manually set flash, and a bit of knowledge in properly using it,
    can be just as good as TTL flash. However, TTL flash is set it and forget it
    (mostly, but not always). It is a nice feature, and can be really handy.

    What I find is a bigger difference between the M6 and later M6 TTL, is the
    shutter speed selection dial. On the later M6 TTL, this is larger diameter, and
    much easier to use. The convenience of that alone could be worth the purchase.

    One other thing is that if you want to get the .85 or .58 finder version, these
    are more common in the M6 TTL. The earlier M6 did offer a .85 high
    magnification finder, but it is a bit rare.

    Check on Camera Quest for some more information. There are a few other
    differences:

    <http://www.cameraquest.com/mguide.htm#M6>

    <http://www.cameraquest.com/mguide.htm#New 1998 M6 TTL Flash!>

    You can save some money on initial purchase by going for an early M6, since
    that version is older. The TTL version came out just over five years ago, so
    those are newer. Both are fairly good relative bargain purchases currently.

    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Dec 5, 2003
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  3. Besides the TTL, the TTL version's shutter dial turns the opposite of the
    non-TTL version, which is the "correct" direction if you follow the arrows on
    the builtin meter display, or the wrong direction if you are used to the older
    cameras. Note that M7 turns the same way as the M6TTL but the new MP turns the
    old way again :)

    Other than these two items, I doubt there are any practical differences between
    the TTL and non-TTL version.
     
    Richard F. Man, Dec 5, 2003
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  4. There is also a difference in the exposure meter display between that in
    the M6 and the M6 TTL. In the case of the TTL (I own one) there are the
    two triangles for over and under exposure, and a round dot between the
    two that lights up for correct exposure. I'm trying to remember what
    the manual says for the non-TTL. I think that the two triangles just
    light up simultaneously when the exposure is correct. A minor
    difference, but I seem to remember people saying that the TTL version is
    noticeably easier to use.

    Herb
     
    Herbert Kanner, Dec 6, 2003
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    Photo Guest

    I found a new Leica M6, forgotten in a dealer, so I bought it yesterday. It
    is completely new, with 3 years warranty, and it is exactly the model my
    father was looking for: Leica M6 Chrome "Classic". I saw his papers and I
    finally discover exactly what he wanted.

    By the way, I gave it to him yesterday, just a little bit earlier than
    Christmas, in order to be able to buy an objective (probably Summicrom 2/50
    mm) as soon as possible and start taking pictures :)

    Thanks to all of you that gave me such a good information!
     
    Photo, Dec 6, 2003
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I think he would be really happy with the Summicron.
    Sounds like a great Christmas present . . . wish I was getting one.

    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Dec 6, 2003
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    Leicaddict Guest

    This is my Leica model of choice, a Leitz Leica M6, manuf. 1985. So it's
    coming up on being a 20 year old camera. Non the less, this is my favorite
    model of the recent vintage (M6, M6TTL, M7, MP). Lately they've (M6 Classic)
    been going up in value on the used camera market. One sold recently on E-Bay
    for $1900. Your Father is a lucky man, and I'm sure he'll cherish this
    wonderful gift as much today, as he will in twenty years, when you've spent
    thousands on lesser equipment, and his M6 will be worth @$4000 (and you and
    your friends will still be arguing over the death of film). Again
    congradulations on a worthy investment and Happy Holidays.
     
    Leicaddict, Dec 6, 2003
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    Photo Guest

    Thank you very much for your help!
     
    Photo, Dec 7, 2003
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    Photo Guest

    Thank you very much for your help!
     
    Photo, Dec 7, 2003
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  10. Great! Why can't I ever find these kind of camera shops?
    There's also the collapsable 50/2.8, which costs about 40% less than the
    50/2, and makes for a more compact package, provided you can go without
    the extra stop. The Summicron is a great lens though, he won't be
    disappointed with either.
     
    Drew Saunders, Dec 9, 2003
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