Leica, on the 4/3rds lenses

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    "Our goal is clear: to provide the best lenses available to the
    FourThirds market. This quality will have an appropriate price". The
    lenses are designed and developed by Leica at Solms, and manufactured
    in Japan, using Solms QA processes.
     
    RichA, Mar 23, 2006
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  2. So? They need the money.

    Leica will not be making any 4/3 sensor cameras.
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    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 23, 2006
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  3. RichA

    ian lincoln Guest

    Stupidly expensive!
     
    ian lincoln, Mar 26, 2006
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  4. Quality has a price. May you need a second job?


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    "Americans have plenty of everything and the best of nothing."

    John C. Keats
    American Writer
    1924-2000
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 26, 2006
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  5. RichA

    ian lincoln Guest

    For a lens that only works on a 4/3rd sensor? Like putting $500 tyres on a
    yugo.
     
    ian lincoln, Mar 27, 2006
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  6. Like Canon owners buy EF-S lenses which will only work on the 1.6
    crop.


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    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 27, 2006
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  7. RichA

    Rich Guest

    If the lenses do cost as much as equivalent FF-supporting lens,
    either their pricing model is "creative" or the lenses are far better.
    Lets hope the latter. Lens production costs rise rapidly with element
    diameter.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Mar 27, 2006
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  8. RichA

    Skip M Guest

    The Oly 35-100 f2 is larger, heavier and more expensive than the Canon
    70-200 f2.8L IS. Its image quality is equivalent, certainly no worse, it is
    faster, to make up for the shortcomings in sensor size, as far as depth of
    field goes, but it doesn't include IS. So, at least in this case, the first
    part of your supposition, creative pricing, seems to be the outcome, rather
    than it being far better.
     
    Skip M, Mar 27, 2006
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  9. RichA

    ian lincoln Guest

    nope. if you are planning to go full frame then the ff lenses will also
    work. If you find 1.6 adequate then stick to EF-S. EF-S is only really
    necessary to people who desperately need wide angles.

    compared with buying a lens whose quality far outperforms the ability of the
    sensor - if all the leica hype is to be believed.
     
    ian lincoln, Mar 27, 2006
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    Jan Böhme Guest

    But one stop better speed isn't enough to compensate for noise
    performance of the actual sensors in the Oly DSLR:s, relative to a
    current Canon, is it?
    I thought that would be Panasonic's contribution to the 4/3 consortium.
    Instead, they made their own body. Strange priorities...

    Jan Böhme
     
    Jan Böhme, Mar 27, 2006
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  11. 4/3 image stabilised lens from Leica:

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022608leica14-50mm.asp

    Panasonic tend to use Leica lenses.

    Must be back to the start of the thread.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Mar 27, 2006
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  12. RichA

    Rich Guest

    Kind of odd when you consider the front lens on the Olympus needs only
    to be 50mm across to provide 100mm at f2 versus the Canon 200mm at
    f2.8 which requires a front lens 72mm across. In the case of Canon
    versus Olympus, we could also be talking about economies of scale
    given it's unlikely Olympus will produce even 1/10th the number of
    35-100mm lenses compared to Canon's 70-200 lens.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Mar 27, 2006
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  13. RichA

    Rich Guest

    At first I thought Olympus might be worried this would cut into sales
    of the 14-54 (their "pro" lens) but that Leica will probably cost
    2x as much if not more.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Mar 27, 2006
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  14. RichA

    Basic Wedge Guest


    That's bad advice. Canon will orphan the EF-S lenses. Canon has an
    established history of abandoning lens formats.

    Rob
     
    Basic Wedge, Mar 28, 2006
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  15. John A. Stovall, Mar 28, 2006
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  16. Which in the case of the FZ20 versus S2 IS show that the Leica lens is
    better than the Canon lens, so the name probably does mean something in
    that case.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Mar 28, 2006
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  17. RichA

    Basic Wedge Guest

    ...
    It's a simple case of envy. Well known that Canon "L" series lenses are
    mostly good, but their standard lenses are sharp as marshmallows. These
    folks would love to have a Leica lens for their cameras.

    Rob
     
    Basic Wedge, Mar 28, 2006
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  18. Many do have Leica lenses on their full frame Canon bodies.


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    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 28, 2006
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  19. RichA

    Tony Polson Guest


    And many do not, thanks to Canon's decision to make the reflex mirrors
    longer than they need to be, presumably in order to deter owners from
    using some Leica R, Zeiss (Contax) and Pentax Takumar (M42) lenses.

    I am considering having my 5D's mirror modified so I can use more
    lenses from these manufacturers. It's not so bad with the EOS 1Ds
    Mk.II because the mirror apparently isn't quite as long.
     
    Tony Polson, Mar 28, 2006
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  20. As you noted just shave the mirror down...
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    "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
    my testimony. The events I have recorded should
    not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

    -James Nachtwey-
    http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 29, 2006
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