Light Meter: Sekonic L-358 or Minolta Auto Meter VF?

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Stefan Patric, Aug 5, 2003.

  1. On Wednesday 06 August 2003 02:11 am, Zoran wrote:

    > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability
    > is not that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358,
    > Minolta Auto Meter VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash
    > Meter VI is too much for me. I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF.
    > Could use some help deciding.
    >
    > The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but
    > when I look at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts
    > where the Auto Meter VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that
    > makes me think the Sekonic is more comparable to the Flash Meter V
    > rather than the Auto Meter VF, until I compare price - the Flash
    > Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).
    >
    > I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the
    > preferred choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a
    > Minolta is better than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to
    > influence my purchase.


    Having been a pro for 30 years, I can tell you that knowledgeable
    pros buy the meter or meters that satisfy their needs. Over the
    years, I've owned Gossen, Sekonic, Soligor, and Minolta. I currently
    use the Gossen Luna Star F and have an old Minolta III F as a backup.
    Both are simple, easy to use, accurate, without a lot of features
    I'll never use.

    > So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to
    > the Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features
    > and accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter
    > V, so much more expensive?


    Don't worry about it why one is more than another. Get the Sekonic
    L-358. It'll do more than you'll every need or want it to do.

    > I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing
    > and simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming
    > conventions. The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.


    Do you really NEED all that analyzing and simulation? Just get a
    meter that takes accurate light readings and shows it in an easily
    discernable form.

    --
    Stefan Patric
     
    Stefan Patric, Aug 5, 2003
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  2. Stefan Patric

    Zoran Guest

    I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.

    The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).

    I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.

    So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    more expensive?

    I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.

    Thanks, Zoran.
     
    Zoran, Aug 6, 2003
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  3. Stefan Patric

    Matt Clara Guest

    "Zoran" <> wrote in message
    news:gtZXa.1676$...
    > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is

    not
    > that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto

    Meter
    > VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for

    me.
    > I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.
    >
    > The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I

    look
    > at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    > VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    > is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF,

    until
    > I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).
    >
    > I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the

    preferred
    > choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is

    better
    > than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.
    >
    > So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    > Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    > accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so

    much
    > more expensive?
    >
    > I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    > simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    > The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.
    >
    > Thanks, Zoran.
    >
    >


    All I can say is I have the L-358 and find it to be a great light meter.
    They have great support of their product, too. I once was having trouble
    grasping a feature on the meter, called Mamiya/Sekonic, and they were as
    friendly as could be and spent 20 minutes talking to me about the meter
    until I understood the particular feature I was looking at.

    Now I want a spotmeter with averaging capabilities.
     
    Matt Clara, Aug 6, 2003
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  4. Stefan Patric

    Alan Browne Guest

    Zoran wrote:
    > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    > that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    > VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    > I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.
    >


    I had the Sekonic 508L (Very good) and I currently have the Minolta VF.
    Very good also. I don't need the spot meter of the 508... my Maxxum 9
    has a spot meter.

    I use the VF for studio strobe setup, mainly and sometimes for incident
    measurements outside.

    When I had the Sekonic, I biased it up (down?) 1/3 or 1/3 stop via the
    calibration function to get exposure right. With the VF I have no bias
    (you can calibrate it too).

    In ambient light shooting (non-studio/strobe) the VF does not favour
    aperture priority shooting. You set the speed, it indicates aperture.
    (The 508 was the same way). If you prefer Aperture priority shooting
    (as most people do for composition reasons), then you take a measurement
    at a given speed, and then read the aperture, and either it in you head
    and reciprocally speed. It is quicker to simply press the speed buttons
    until the required aperture is read and then read the speed.... Average
    ambient readings are made by succesive presses of the M key ... with two
    presses you get the high, low and average.

    The VF has a handy little ambient/strobe indicator in 25% increments (0,
    25, 50, 75, 100) ... the V if I remember has it 10% increments, FWIW.
    This is very useful when shooting studio strobe outdoor ... if you want
    more ambient in the ratio just slow down the shutter speed selection. I
    don't remember if the 508L had ambient ratio or if the 358 has it either.

    The 508L had a better strobe auto mode. Whenever a strobe goes, it
    meters it. The VF has to be "armed" each time. This has been the real
    only PITA of the VF to me. No big deal when measuring with a cord, but
    when putting the meter somewhere and then firing the strobes, and then
    having to walk back to it to reset it... PITA ...as you say below.

    The 508L only selected speed in 1/2 stops (I think?) the VF, in 1/3
    (affects the speed selection, hence the aperture). Both read out to
    1/10 of a stop.

    > The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    > at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    > VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    > is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    > I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).


    Yes, I believe that Minolta are milking the V hard because of its strong
    position with the pro market. It can't cost much more than the VF to
    make, yet it is nearly 2x the price. (I just looked at the B&H site and
    now there is a "Flash Meter 6" ... must be new... and more $$$$ than the V).

    >
    > I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    > choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    > than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.


    Gosen, Minolta, Sekonic are the ones you see the most being used by
    pros. They're all good. Pros I've hired for product shoots around here
    mostly had the Minolta V. One pro I know has an ancient Gosen that she
    won't let go of.
    As you've been doing your homework, you will find the right one for you.

    > So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    > Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    > accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    > more expensive?


    The 358 from what you say seems to have the adavantage of the auto
    strobe detection. The VF (I beleive) can do 1/3 stop speed where the
    Sekonic cannot (I may be wrong).

    They are all very accurate; thought the Sekonics seem to have a
    different notion of what 18% grey is. Shoot some slides with black,
    white and grey targets under ambient to figure this out.

    >
    > I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    > simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    > The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.


    I agree!!

    Cheers,
    Alan.

    PS: I bought the VF at B&H last winter. 24 hours after I ordered it,
    B&H lowered the price on the website by $20.00. I phoned and explained
    and B&H credited my credit card by that amount. Great folks there.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 6, 2003
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  5. Stefan Patric

    Alan Browne Guest

    Zoran wrote:
    I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.


    I had the Sekonic 508L (Very good) and I currently have the Minolta VF.
    Very good also. I don't need the spot meter of the 508... my Maxxum 9
    has a spot meter.

    I use the VF for studio strobe setup, mainly and sometimes for incident
    measurements outside.

    When I had the Sekonic, I biased it up (down?) 1/3 (or 1/2?) stop via
    the calibration function to get the exposure right. With the VF I have
    no bias (you can calibrate it too).

    In ambient light shooting (non-studio/strobe) the VF does not favour
    aperture priority shooting. You set the speed, it indicates aperture.
    (The 508 was the same way). If you prefer Aperture priority shooting
    (as most people do for composition reasons), then you take a measurement
    at a given speed, and then read the aperture, and either it in you head
    and reciprocally speed. It is quicker to simply press the speed buttons
    until the required aperture is read and then read the speed.... Average
    ambient readings are made by succesive presses of the M key ... with two
    presses you get the high, low and average.

    The VF has a handy little ambient/strobe indicator in 25% increments (0,
    25, 50, 75, 100) ... the V if I remember has it 10% increments, FWIW.
    This is very useful when shooting studio strobe outdoor ... if you want
    more ambient in the ratio just slow down the shutter speed selection. I
    don't remember if the 508L had ambient ratio or if the 358 has it either.

    The 508L had a better strobe auto mode. Whenever a strobe goes, it
    meters it. The VF has to be "armed" each time. This has been the real
    only PITA of the VF to me. No big deal when measuring with a cord, but
    when putting the meter somewhere and then firing the strobes, and then
    having to walk back to it to reset it... PITA ...as you say below.

    The 508L only selected speed in 1/2 stops (I think?) the VF, in 1/3
    (affects the speed selection, hence the aperture). Both read out to
    1/10 of a stop.

    The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).

    Yes, I believe that Minolta are milking the V hard because of its strong
    position with the pro market. It can't cost much more than the VF to
    make, yet it is nearly 2x the price. (I just looked at the B&H site and
    now there is a "Flash Meter 6" ... must be new... and more $$$$ than the V).


    I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.

    Gosen, Minolta, Sekonic are the ones you see the most being used by
    pros. They're all good. Pros I've hired for product shoots around here
    mostly had the Minolta V. One pro I know has an ancient Gosen that she
    won't let go of.
    As you've been doing your homework, you will find the right one for you.

    So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    more expensive?

    The 358 from what you say seems to have the adavantage of the auto
    strobe detection. The VF (I beleive) can do 1/3 stop speed where the
    Sekonic cannot (I may be wrong).

    They are all very accurate; thought the Sekonics seem to have a
    different notion of what 18% grey is. Shoot some slides with black,
    white and grey targets under ambient to figure this out.


    I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.

    I agree!!

    Cheers,
    Alan.

    PS: I bought the VF at B&H last winter. 24 hours after I ordered it,
    B&H lowered the price on the website by $20.00. I phoned and explained
    and B&H credited my credit card by that amount. Great folks there.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 6, 2003
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  6. "Zoran" <> wrote:

    >I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    >that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    >VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    >I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.
    >
    >The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    >at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    >VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    >is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    >I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).
    >
    >I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    >choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    >than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.
    >
    >So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    >Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    >accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    >more expensive?
    >
    >I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    >simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    >The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.
    >
    >Thanks, Zoran.
    >
    >



    I have two Sekonic meters, a Digilite 328 and a L-358. They are both
    highly accurate for shooting chromes. For me the compelling reason to
    get the 358 is the fact that it works in concert with
    FlashWizards--you get a small module to insert into the meter and it
    automatically fires your studio flash without a cable and without a
    second FlashWizard transmitter. If you do any amount of shooting with
    studio flash this is a revelation, and you'll never go back to using
    flash sync cords.
    ---
    David Meiland
    Oakland, California
    http://davidmeiland.com/

    **Check the reply address before sending mail
     
    David Meiland, Aug 6, 2003
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  7. Stefan Patric

    Stacey Guest

    Zoran wrote:

    > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is
    > not that important to me.


    I'm real happy with the little L-308B. Does everything I need (incedence and
    reflected) and is nice and =small=. Can't imagine what else I'd need for a
    meter to do for my landscape/environmental portrait photography.
    --

    Stacey
     
    Stacey, Aug 6, 2003
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  8. Stefan Patric

    Frank Pittel Guest

    They're both good meters and you won't go wrong with either of them.
    I would go to a local camera store in the area ( if there is one ) and try
    them both out. Buy the one that you like the best and has the feature set
    that you want.

    As to which meter the pros use. I know a number of pros that use the
    sekonic meters and swear by them. Again they're all good meters. :)

    In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Zoran <> wrote:
    : I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    : that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    : VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    : I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.

    : The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    : at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    : VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    : is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    : I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).

    : I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    : choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    : than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.

    : So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    : Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    : accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    : more expensive?

    : I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    : simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    : The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.

    : Thanks, Zoran.



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    Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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    Frank Pittel, Aug 6, 2003
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  9. Stefan Patric

    Frank Pittel Guest

    In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Alan Browne <> wrote:


    : Zoran wrote:
    :> I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    :> that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    :> VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    :> I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.
    :>

    : I had the Sekonic 508L (Very good) and I currently have the Minolta VF.
    : Very good also. I don't need the spot meter of the 508... my Maxxum 9
    : has a spot meter.

    : I use the VF for studio strobe setup, mainly and sometimes for incident
    : measurements outside.

    : When I had the Sekonic, I biased it up (down?) 1/3 or 1/3 stop via the
    : calibration function to get exposure right. With the VF I have no bias
    : (you can calibrate it too).

    The film speed tests that you run should be run with the meter that you
    will be using. This way any error or bias in the meter is taken out. As I
    recall Ansel Adams refered to the bias in light meters as the "k" factor.

    --




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    Frank Pittel, Aug 6, 2003
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  10. Stefan Patric

    Frank Pittel Guest

    In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Matt Clara <> wrote:

    : "Zoran" <> wrote in message
    : news:gtZXa.1676$...
    :> I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is
    : not
    :> that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto
    : Meter
    :> VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for
    : me.
    :> I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.
    :>
    :> The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I
    : look
    :> at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    :> VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    :> is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF,
    : until
    :> I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).
    :>
    :> I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the
    : preferred
    :> choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is
    : better
    :> than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.
    :>
    :> So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    :> Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    :> accuracy? If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so
    : much
    :> more expensive?
    :>
    :> I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    :> simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    :> The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.
    :>
    :> Thanks, Zoran.
    :>
    :>

    : All I can say is I have the L-358 and find it to be a great light meter.
    : They have great support of their product, too. I once was having trouble
    : grasping a feature on the meter, called Mamiya/Sekonic, and they were as
    : friendly as could be and spent 20 minutes talking to me about the meter
    : until I understood the particular feature I was looking at.

    : Now I want a spotmeter with averaging capabilities.

    I have a Sekonic 508L that has a spotmeter (I rarely use anything but the
    spotmeter) and will average readings. My only complaint is it's poor
    sensitivity to low light levels. It make night photography difficult. The
    newer 608 (which I covet) is reported to be much more sensitive to low
    light levels.

    --




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    Frank Pittel, Aug 6, 2003
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  11. Stefan Patric

    Gordon Moat Guest

    Zoran wrote:

    > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is not
    > that important to me. I'm considering the Sekonic L-358, Minolta Auto Meter
    > VF and Minolta Flash Meter V. The Minolta Flash Meter VI is too much for me.
    > I'm leaning towards the Auto Meter VF. Could use some help deciding.


    I own the L-358, and I have rented an Auto Meter VF previously. The Flash Meter
    VI I only know from a friend that has one. An informal test of some incident
    readings indicated my Sekonic gave the same reading in daylight as her Minolta.

    >
    >
    > The Sekonic L-358 is closer in price with the Auto Meter VF, but when I look
    > at features, the Sekonic can do multiple flash bursts where the Auto Meter
    > VF doesn't, but the Flash Meter V does. So that makes me think the Sekonic
    > is more comparable to the Flash Meter V rather than the Auto Meter VF, until
    > I compare price - the Flash Meter V is vastly more (when looking at B&H).


    If you will be doing lots of strobe work, or strobe to ambient ratios, then the
    L-358 is a good choice. I got mine slightly over a year ago from B&H, and the
    price was a very good deal. I did not go for the wireless strobe module at the
    time, though it is something to consider.

    >
    >
    > I've heard from several people that Minolta meters are usually the preferred
    > choice among the pro's. Please, I'm not wishing to start a Minolta is better
    > than Sekonic debate. I just want some opinions to influence my purchase.


    I guess that depends upon the region. In general, I have seen more of the older
    Sekonic meters. I was also a Gossen user for quite a while, and I really wanted
    to get another after I broke mine. However, early last year, the L-358 was
    available at a really good price . . . I am glad I bought it.

    >
    >
    > So, my question to the group... Is the Sekonic L-358 comparable to the
    > Minolta Auto Meter VF or the Flash Meter V in terms of features and
    > accuracy?


    Despite what some might say about accuracy, my L-358 is exactly on metering.
    When I first got it, I bracketed two rolls while testing some strobes, wrote
    down all the settings, and later compared the results. The accuracy was so good
    that I now rarely bracket. You should be aware that most new digital meters
    should be very accurate out of the box, though if you want to do a bracket
    test, it may be a good idea. The L-358 also has dip switch setting to bias 1/10
    accuracy, 1/3, or 1/2 stop, so if you get one, definitely read the manual.

    > If it's the Flash Meter V, why then is the Flash Meter V, so much
    > more expensive?


    Probably because it is a newer product. It does seem to have a nice build
    quality, and the screen is easy to read.

    >
    >
    > I know that the Auto Meter VF will also do flash, with the analzing and
    > simulation feature also. I wish Minolta had different naming conventions.
    > The auto vs flash nomenclature is confusing.


    It might take some practice with any meter that does this. Also, there are
    memory functions, averaging functions, and even ways of calculating luminance
    values. What I found useful was to figure out what settings I used the most,
    set the dip switches to bias those settings, then left those settings switches
    alone.

    >
    >
    > Thanks, Zoran.


    Any of those choices should be super accurate. I enjoy using the Sekonic L-358,
    and I may add one of the spot meter attachments in the future. It is likely
    that my method of metering may often not be as accurate as the meter, which may
    be true of some others experiences.

    Get the one that fits your budget, is easy to carry, easy to work the controls,
    and easy to read. If you can rent one or more prior to buying, that may be the
    best test.

    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Aug 6, 2003
    #11
  12. Stefan Patric

    Rob C Guest

    Stacey <> wrote in message news:<bgptn6$r1ikb$-berlin.de>...
    > Zoran wrote:
    >
    > > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is
    > > not that important to me.

    >
    > I'm real happy with the little L-308B. Does everything I need (incedence and
    > reflected) and is nice and =small=. Can't imagine what else I'd need for a
    > meter to do for my landscape/environmental portrait photography.


    Hi Stacy

    Does the 308 have aperature and shutter priority metering modes? I'm
    trying to decide between the 308 and a 358 (I prefer the size and
    price of the 308).

    Thanks
    Rob
     
    Rob C, Aug 6, 2003
    #12
  13. (Rob C) wrote in message news:<>...
    > Stacey <> wrote in message news:<bgptn6$r1ikb$-berlin.de>...
    > > Zoran wrote:
    > >
    > > > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is
    > > > not that important to me.

    > >
    > > I'm real happy with the little L-308B. Does everything I need (incedence and
    > > reflected) and is nice and =small=. Can't imagine what else I'd need for a
    > > meter to do for my landscape/environmental portrait photography.

    >
    > Hi Stacy
    >
    > Does the 308 have aperature and shutter priority metering modes? I'm
    > trying to decide between the 308 and a 358 (I prefer the size and
    > price of the 308).


    Nope, the 308B II just lets you select the shutter speed, and it
    displays the corresponding aperture. You may change the shutter
    speed before or after taking a reading. If you "think" in aperture
    priority, you'll take a reading, then click the up/down buttons
    until your chosen aperture appears, reading the corresponding
    shutter speed.

    I'm a fan of the 308B II, because it's very simple and intuitive,
    and does everything I could want, without a lot of extra modes
    or functions that require frequent reference to the user manual.

    If you want more details, the full manuals for most current
    Sekonic meters, including the 308BII, are available at
    http://www.sekonic.com/manuals.html

    --Rich
     
    Richard Cochran, Aug 7, 2003
    #13
  14. Stefan Patric

    Dan Quinn Guest

    RE: "Zoran" <>

    I've used my Oly 2040 digital for my last two rolls. A nice tight
    spot, (in spot mode), at telephoto and will do it in macro mode as
    well. Click the shutter and a picture to boot. Dan
     
    Dan Quinn, Aug 7, 2003
    #14
  15. Stefan Patric

    Rob C Guest

    (Richard Cochran) wrote in message news:<>...
    > (Rob C) wrote in message news:<>...
    > > Stacey <> wrote in message news:<bgptn6$r1ikb$-berlin.de>...
    > > > Zoran wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > I'm looking to get a decent all purpose light meter. Spot capability is
    > > > > not that important to me.
    > > >
    > > > I'm real happy with the little L-308B. Does everything I need (incedence and
    > > > reflected) and is nice and =small=. Can't imagine what else I'd need for a
    > > > meter to do for my landscape/environmental portrait photography.

    > >
    > > Hi Stacy
    > >
    > > Does the 308 have aperature and shutter priority metering modes? I'm
    > > trying to decide between the 308 and a 358 (I prefer the size and
    > > price of the 308).

    >
    > Nope, the 308B II just lets you select the shutter speed, and it
    > displays the corresponding aperture. You may change the shutter
    > speed before or after taking a reading. If you "think" in aperture
    > priority, you'll take a reading, then click the up/down buttons
    > until your chosen aperture appears, reading the corresponding
    > shutter speed.
    >
    > I'm a fan of the 308B II, because it's very simple and intuitive,
    > and does everything I could want, without a lot of extra modes
    > or functions that require frequent reference to the user manual.
    >
    > If you want more details, the full manuals for most current
    > Sekonic meters, including the 308BII, are available at
    > http://www.sekonic.com/manuals.html
    >
    > --Rich


    Thanks for the link. Looking at the manuals will probably answer
    questions I haven't even thought of yet.

    Rob
     
    Rob C, Aug 9, 2003
    #15
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