Light Meter: Sekonic vs Minolta

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by W Chan, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. W Chan

    W Chan Guest

    Does anyone have any experience with Sekonic L358 and/or Konica Minolta Auto
    VF meters?

    I am planning to buy one.. and both models are pretty close in price.

    Thanks,

    will

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    W Chan, Mar 9, 2005
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    JohnJ Guest

    I have the L358, but can't compare it to the others you mentioned. I bought
    it because it has the radio transmitter (option) for pocket wizard
    tranceivers. I use this feature a lot so I prefer it to any meter which
    doeas not have this facility, which I beleive the Minolta does not.

    I have no problem with the meter except that I sometimes shoot in very low
    light and the L358 simply isn't sensitive enough at times.

    JJ
     
    JohnJ, Mar 9, 2005
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  3. My experience in both lines is with models previous to the current
    ones; but in general, the Sekonics have been relatively slow and
    insensitive in low light. The Minoltas, which I still use, are much
    better in this respect.
     
    Scott Schuckert, Mar 9, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I have the Minolta VF. Very good except for not having an automatic
    incident flash reset (you haveto press the button each time).

    I had a Sekonic 508, and it would reset every time a flash went off ...
    so you could position the meter and adjust a strobe without having to
    walk back and forth. I don't know how the 358 behaves in this regard.

    The Minolta meters are set at 18% grey. The Sekonic meters are set at
    14% (or 12, not exactly sure). Depending on your results you may want
    of offset the Sekonic by about +1/3 stop to compensate. (The 508 had a
    bias setting, I don't know about the 358). Shoot a roll of Sensia with
    regular subjects and grey card to find out. If you leave the Sekonic as
    is, you will probably end up with slides that are on the saturated side.

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 9, 2005
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    Crownfield Guest

    L-358, EV 1.1, was the low end of the exposure scale

    iso 800, 8 seconds, f4
     
    Crownfield, Mar 9, 2005
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    chidalgo Guest

    The Sekonic is a little more sensitive, and has a 1° spot attachment
    (the Minolta has a 5° spot). Also, the Sekonic has the Pocketwizard option.
     
    chidalgo, Mar 9, 2005
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    Frank Pittel Guest

    : In article <[email protected]>, W Chan <>
    : wrote:

    : > Does anyone have any experience with Sekonic L358 and/or Konica Minolta Auto
    : > VF meters?

    : My experience in both lines is with models previous to the current
    : ones; but in general, the Sekonics have been relatively slow and
    : insensitive in low light. The Minoltas, which I still use, are much
    : better in this respect.

    I just picked up the new Sekonic 558 and they have fixed the issue with
    low light sensitivity.
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    Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
     
    Frank Pittel, Mar 9, 2005
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I was assisting on a shoot in which I brought my Sekonic L-358, and the
    photographer supplied a Minolta Meter (forget the model number). All reading were
    exactly the same, and there was nothing wrong with the meters.

    I don't know where this information comes from that Sekonic meters are off. I
    have rented many, and used many others numerous times, including Minolta, Gossen,
    digital and old analogue style. It is rare for a meter to be off, and if you
    think it is, send it back for recalibration.
    The test is to bracket a roll of film under controlled light conditions. Then you
    compare the notes. I did just that when I bought my L-358, and it was exactly on
    the numbers. I don't think Sekonic would long survive in the business if all
    their meters were off right out of the box.
     
    Gordon Moat, Mar 9, 2005
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  9. W Chan

    Gordon Moat Guest

    I don't think either is a bad choice. You might want to look at Gossen as well,
    for another comparison. I have used both many times. After renting light meters
    for a few years, I finally bought a Sekonic L-358. I was looking for a Gossen
    at the time, since that was the old meter I had. B&H had a better deal on the
    Sekonic, so that is what I went with at that time.
     
    Gordon Moat, Mar 9, 2005
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    JohnJ Guest

    .. (The 508 had a
    The L358 has a couple of options to make such a bias adjustment.
    JJ
     
    JohnJ, Mar 9, 2005
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    Nick Zentena Guest

    Sekonic are setup for 12.5% . They're setup the way the
    standard requires them to be. I'll bet the Minolta's are to.


    http://www.sekonic.com/Products/L-358.html

    Check the K factor. Just the 12.5% the ansi standard calls for.




    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Mar 9, 2005
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    Nick Zentena Guest


    Sorry just downloaded the Minolta manual for the IFV it's set to 14%.
    Don't know what's up with that.

    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Mar 9, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Minolta VF: -2 EV to 19.9
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 9, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    It's not about about error or that Sekonic are "off", but about what
    flavour of grey that Sekonic have selected. I've had both meters and in
    an ambient light test on grey card, the 508 (ambient) consistently set
    to underexpose v. the Maxxum 9 (reflected from grey card) by 1/3 stop.
    The Min-VF is consistent within 0.1 of a stop v. the Maxxum 9.
    On the 508, it was simply a question of adjusting it by 0.3 stops and
    getting on with life. I wish I had kept that meter.

    Mileage (as you stated in the <snipped> text below) varies...

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 9, 2005
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  15. W Chan

    Alan Browne Guest


    Then I can't explain a 1/3 EV diff ebtween he 508 I had and the VF that
    I do have. 12.5 or 14% to 18% is what in EV?

    ???

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Mar 9, 2005
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    retoohs Guest

    They are both great brands and all I can say is the Pro's I work with
    usually go for Minolta. Either will be a great meter, I own a Minolta
    Spot Meter and a cheap Sekonic Incident meter and both are very accurate

    Alan
     
    retoohs, Mar 10, 2005
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    Nick Zentena Guest


    I don't remember-( It's small. 12.5 is tilting an 18% card 45degrees to
    the light source. Or at least I remember it's 45 degrees-)

    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Mar 10, 2005
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    Bandicoot Guest

    Most professional photographers are herd animals when it comes to equipment
    choice, especially to 'ancilliaries', ie. just about anything other than the
    lens. We simply can't afford to take risks, and copying what works for
    everyone else is a good way of being pretty sure of reliability. Just about
    every studio and architectural photographer I know uese Minolta, and just
    about every landscape photographer uses either a Pentax spotmeter or a
    Sekonic (I use Sekonic). However, my Sekonic works just as well in the
    studio for me as it does for the landscape work that I do more of. My
    'first' back up meter is a Gossen, and that works equally well.

    I think it's hard to go wrong with either of the 'big two' in meters. Note
    how many of the accessories are interchangeable between Minolta and Sekonic
    and you get a feel for how close they are... If I was buying again I would
    choose between a Sekonic, a Minolta, or maybe a Gossen, on features and
    price rather than on brand name. If I needed only a spotmeter, rather than
    also wanting incident and flash, I'd get a Pentax.



    Peter
     
    Bandicoot, Mar 10, 2005
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I think it is around 1/20th of a stop. Most people using a hand held meter
    could make that much of a mistake just in the way they held the meter.
     
    Gordon Moat, Mar 10, 2005
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Did I misunderstand something in that statement? Are you comparing an incident reading
    to a reflected reading? Are you using a spot reading for comparison? Please explain.
    Do you trust your Maxxum 9 readings more than an incident reading from a meter?
    Obviously, someone can even fail to get the same reading twice from the same meter.
    Add in spot metering, and I have seen many people just be way off too often for it to
    be funny.
     
    Gordon Moat, Mar 10, 2005
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