Lightroom Color Profile Different from Photoshop

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by lawdoggy, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. lawdoggy

    lawdoggy Guest

    I hope someone can help me. I have used the Spyder2pro to calibrate my
    monitor and it works perfectly in photoshop. The color profile does
    not work with Lightroom? I can not figure out how to get it loaded. If
    I print the photo (Sams Club) it matches exactly to the photo in PS
    (CS2) but not even close when open in Lightroom? What am I missing?

    lawdoggy, Oct 28, 2007
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  2. You are missing an understanding how color profiles are used. What you
    create with Spyder2Pro is a monitor profile, and that is only where this
    profile should be used. Both Lightroom and Photoshop will do that
    automatically; you do not have to 'load' this profile as long as it is
    correctly set as your monitor profile in your system. If your prints
    from Lightroom do not match, check which PRINTER profile you are using
    in Lightroom...
    Johan W. Elzenga, Oct 29, 2007
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  3. lawdoggy

    Joel Guest

    What do you mean it works with Photoshop but not Light Room? I thought
    calibrator will calibrate the monitor then generate the MINITOR profile that
    you load to Windows to be used by all applications. I don't own any monitor
    calibrator can generate the profile for printer or any speficific app, but
    with the way Windows works I don't think I will ever need one for monitor
    (printer may be but not monitor)

    What you are missing that different print-lab can print different color,
    so what you may need.

    - To find out what printer SAM's Club is using, and checking to see if they
    have their Printer Profile available for downloading (I guess 99% chance
    they don't). Or try to use similar Printer & Paper profile other photolab
    use hoping you may get closer to what you want. And it won't warrantee the
    color will stay the same as they can change their setting.

    - Then you can load that specific Printer Profile to Photoshop and using
    Ctrl-Y (pretty sure it's the right command but I may be wrong) to toggle
    between Monitor/Printer Profile to see if the color matches or off.

    Also, I have tried local SAM's Club few times (I like the paper) and I
    have noticed that SAM's Club is much darker than many others. But sometime
    I like that darker tone (especially rough paper instead of clossy).
    Joel, Oct 29, 2007
  4. lawdoggy

    Douglas Guest

    I presume here you are using Windows. You really need to state if you are
    using a Mac as a Mac.

    The basic concept of "colour profiles" is to match paper, software and
    hardware components to each other.
    Lightroom and Photoshop ( like all other programs and Windows itself) will
    display every image you have, using their own management system based on the
    sRGB standard. This is the standard Microsoft use and nearly every monitor
    maker uses.

    Calibrating your monitor only causes it to look like a sample image for
    colour and contrast. When you open a photo with a different colour profile
    than sRGB using Photoshop, it will (unless you turned off the feature) ask
    you to use the existing profile or convert it to the working profile.

    It is the "working profile" of Photoshop which causes the most confusion.
    Photoshop will alter the image rendering so it "looks" the same or Adobe's
    idea of the same as an sRGB image, regardless of the actual profile the
    image has embedded.

    If this is starting to get confusing... The monitor ALWAYS displays sRGB.
    Photoshop is a colour managed program in that it works seamlessly to show
    you a sRGB image on the screen while it may be working with a "Pro Photo" or
    any of a plethora of other colour profiles. It does this because you monitor
    cannot see a "pro photo" image in it's correct colours.

    Lightroom may or may not (depending on it's setup) display an image as a
    "colour managed" one. You could for example open a "pro photo" profiled
    image that Photoshop has created and see it without rendering for the screen
    output. This would cause the image to look way different than it does in

    I have struggled with lightroom for nearly a year. For every 100 images it
    processes, I still have to use Photoshop on 15 of them afterwards. I
    personally do not think it is a mature program. Other, older RAW converters
    do a much better job of processing bulk RAW images. However if you bought
    it, Like me, you'll have to struggle with it until it either gets better or
    you figure out how to work with it.

    Your biggest challenge will be figuring out the relationship each component
    of colour management has with each other. Many people unable to grasp this
    critical issue, simply turn off all colour management in Photoshop and other
    colour managed programs and rely on Windows to manage the colours and their
    printer to handle paper types. OK for home and semi pro use but not good
    enough for working professionals.

    Douglas, Oct 30, 2007
  5. lawdoggy

    Joel Guest

    It sounds like you got the whole thing wrong. See other response(s) for
    right direction.
    Joel, Oct 30, 2007
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