Like a gopro 3, but without the barrel vision?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Ty Ford, Jun 17, 2013.

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    Ty Ford Guest

    Ty Ford, Jun 17, 2013
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  2. What do you want to shoot with it, and how? The
    GoPro covers a very wide angle of view, one so wide
    that it is easy to do compactly, sharply, and with
    relatively little edge magnification only with a
    fisheye lens rather than with one with rectangular
    perspective. If you are not shooting in sand, snow,
    under water, etc., there are several small HD
    camcorders that shoot a narrower angle of view
    that have mic inputs (as does the GoPro...), but
    they are much larger and heavier, and they cannot
    be so easily attached to things that move as the
    GoPro can be...
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jun 18, 2013
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    HerHusband Guest

    Any handy cams out there like that...oh and with decent sound
    I tried the GoPro camera but the distorted view and lack of a view screen
    were deal killers for me. I returned the GoPro and picked up a Panasonic
    DMC-TS3 camera:

    http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-TS3-Waterproof-Stabilized-2-7-
    Inch/dp/B004KKZ0KG/ref=sr_1_3

    It doesn't have the quality of my TM700, of course, but it's tough and
    waterproof. I have used it underwater while snorkeling, used it to take
    video on a zip line, and seriously beat it up riding on Jet ski's. It has
    worked wonderfully.

    I use my TM700 camcorder when I can, but grab the TS3 if I expect rain,
    water exposure at the beach, rough handling, or underwater. Sometimes I
    grab the TS3 when I don't want to haul my full camcorder around and just
    want something I can just stick in my pocket.

    Anthony Watson
    www.mountain-software.com/anthony.htm
     
    HerHusband, Jun 18, 2013
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  4. The fisheye view of the GoPro is useful for action, whereas
    a super-wide rectangular perspective lens would be annoying
    with rapid direction-changes of the camera, since that
    would result in rapid size changes of objects within the
    frame area (that is a good reason, in addition to practical
    "design" aspects relating to the required size of the optics,
    why we also see in "fisheye"-perspective). Also, with a
    fisheye, with the tilting of the camera up or down and back
    and forth, the parallelism of lines that are parallel in the
    subjects is better maintained, instead of having them wildly
    shifting out of parallel in the image. Fisheye-perspective
    also makes practical having extremely wide angles of view,
    ones that would be impossible to achieve using rectangular
    perspective as 180 degrees is approached (and I once owned
    a fisheye that exceeded 180 degrees, going out to 220 degrees
    and it could therefore "see" things behind the plane of
    focus[!]). Fisheyes can be your friend...!;-)

    Also, while tiny, the GoPro does have an available (for about
    $80) a rear screen accessory for the camera...
    There is a newer model (the TS4) available that is also
    fairly cheap that is also referred to at that URL...
    Neat! Good suggestion. Apparently, also, the recommended
    yearly replacement of the seals by Panasonic is now only
    about $50, which makes it more practical than formerly...
    Good points!
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jun 19, 2013
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    HerHusband Guest

    The fisheye view of the GoPro is useful for action

    Me and "action" do not belong in the same sentence... :)
    Actually, it looks like there's an even newer model TS5:

    http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/panasonic-lumix-ts5-digital-
    camera-review

    http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-TS5A-Digital-Camera-
    Intelligent/product-reviews/B00ATE7ULY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt

    Things are always changing... :)
    Hmm... First I've ever heard of that. I've had the TS3 for a few years now
    and am still on the original seals. So far I haven't had a problem. I
    think I would spring for a new camera if the TS3 leaks instead of replacing
    seals.

    Anthony Watson
    www.mountain-software.com/anthony.htm
     
    HerHusband, Jun 19, 2013
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    Ty Ford Guest

    Thanks David,

    Succinctly put.

    I was thinking of something for in studio video, in my audio studio. So
    mostly musicians.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford


    Try my blog; http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/
    Try my audio sample archive: http://tinyurl.com/796z25d
    Try my gear reviews: http://tinyurl.com/79q797r
     
    Ty Ford, Jun 20, 2013
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    mkujbida Guest


    Ty, as I recall you're a Mac user so I don't know if this will be of any help but there's a product from proDAD called ProDRENALIN specifically designed for cameras like the GoPro that claims to remove fisheye, stabilize, de-noise, etc.
    More info and a trial version are at http://www.prodad.com/home/products/actioncam/300582316,l-us.html

    Mike
     
    mkujbida, Jun 21, 2013
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    Ty Ford Guest

    For Mac guys...

    Thanks again for the nudge, Mike.

    Ty

    Try my blog; http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/
    Try my audio sample archive: http://tinyurl.com/796z25d
    Try my gear reviews: http://tinyurl.com/79q797r
     
    Ty Ford, Jun 25, 2013
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