London Metropolitan Police and Photography

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Jul 9, 2009
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    Chris H Guest

    Not really It appears the Home Office has not backed it... According to
    AP it was "distancing itself" from the guidance....
     
    Chris H, Jul 9, 2009
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  3. There's most likely nothing new there at all.

    As with many such situations, the problem often lies in trying to convince
    the police personnel actually on the scene that they're exceeding their powers,
    or are acting contrary to stated and agreed policy. This doesn't simply apply
    to photography either. If the police feel themselves under pressure in a situation
    they're unfamiliar with, then even quoting the relevant material taken from their
    own website may be of little avail. But may even prove counterproductive.
    In an ideal world they'd maybe be better trained to deal with these
    situations, but unfortunately the fares to the ideal world are rather
    expensive.


    michael adams

    ....
     
    michael adams, Jul 9, 2009
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    whisky-dave Guest

    Friends of mine have had that problem the police asking so why are you
    taking a picture of the 4 security cameras. he was an art student and
    started
    describing the way the barbed wire created a frame for the camera. that
    enclosed the clouds. The policeman believed him, I doubt a terrorist could
    come up with a long winded description of such things.
    I do wonder why a terrorist would bother taking such photos making
    themselves conspicuous like that.
     
    whisky-dave, Jul 10, 2009
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  5. Thanks. Now corrected.
    That's a bit harsh, surely!
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    "Brain" and "brain"! What is "brain"?!
     
    Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Jul 10, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Tom Baker, many years ago, when asked what was the best thing about being
    Doctor Who, replied "do you realize that I am the only man in the UK who can
    walk up to any child and say 'would you care for a Jelly Baby' without being
    arrested".

    There are two kinds of people in the world, those who think that obeying the
    letter of the law protects them from arrest and those who have pissed off a
    cop.
     
    J. Clarke, Jul 11, 2009
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    Jeff R. Guest

    ....except that it *works*!
     
    Jeff R., Jul 12, 2009
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    Chris H Guest

    In message <
    s.com>, writes
    It is getting very bad when you actually have to start putting
    "disclaimers" like this in posts to Usenet. :-(
    And most PCSO's have no idea of the law. Come ot that many Police are
    not that clued up. I understand that the police can not know all the law
    all the time (there is a lot of it) but you should now laws you intend
    to use. breat coppers will not need to know fraud, computer, financial
    crime etc but they should know the stuff relating to "street crime"
     
    Chris H, Jul 12, 2009
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    DRS Guest

    GE's street views are often out of date.
     
    DRS, Jul 12, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    They're obtained by driving a car equipped with a special camera past the
    location, they aren't supposed to be live webcams. The one of my house
    would have been taken sometime in the summer of 2007. I doubt that they are
    going to be running repeat imagery other than in areas where they are
    troubleshooting the hardware until they get the whole country done once.

    As far as "terrain view with elevation" goes, you can buy a complete set of
    topographic maps of the entire US for a few hundred bucks. They aren't
    absolutely current though--you need to compare what is on the map with the
    Google Earth imagery to get handle on how current the map is--if the Google
    Earth imagery for a particular location is too old, then you need to get off
    your butt and go eyeball it.
     
    J. Clarke, Jul 12, 2009
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  12. So were the Luftwaffe's maps of London, Liverpool & Coventry.
    One quick reconnaissance visit, without taking any photos, and you can
    confirm if the relevant details on the map/GE-SV is good enough for your
    intended purpose.
     
    Kennedy McEwen, Jul 12, 2009
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    Bob Larter Guest

    I find it utterly hilarious that you expect people to believe this sort
    of rubbish.
     
    Bob Larter, Jul 13, 2009
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  14. I've heard police officers here in the USA mention that "ignorance of the
    law is no excuse" when someone unknowingly violates a law. The same should
    apply to those charged with enforcing the law, even moreso. They should be
    held to a higher standard.
     
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Jul 13, 2009
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  15. It is the same here - you don't need to know what law you are breaking
    to be guilty of breaking it.
    Nice idea in principle.

    "All animals are equal,
    But some are more equal than others"

    Why do you think they are called pigs? Sadly, it is nothing to
    literate. In the UK, and also in the US, it is because their senior
    officer's snouts are up to their ears in the trough!
    Just the same standard would be a good start.

    "No question now, what had happened to the faces of the police. The
    creatures outside looked from police to thieves, and from terrorist to
    police, and from police to politician again; but already it was
    impossible to say which was which." - sic.
     
    Kennedy McEwen, Jul 13, 2009
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  16. [F-U set to .digital]

    How does one literate something?

    yeah, I knew what you meant, and picking a tiny typo is not meant to
    diminish the truth and eloquence of what you say. Quoting Orwell is
    almost always a good thing.

    Big Brother is watching, too!
     
    John McWilliams, Jul 13, 2009
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    Chris H Guest

    In message <[email protected]
    Panorama (30 mins bbc1 Monday) and "taking liberties" (2 hours more4
    last night) were covering these issues pretty comprehensively....

    It is likely that the silent majority won't stay silent much longer.
    Why would that have any relevance?
     
    Chris H, Jul 15, 2009
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