Looking for a good PhotoShop 7 book for PC

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Christine O, Oct 16, 2003.

  1. Christine O

    Christine O Guest

    Hi all,

    I'm looking to buy a good PhotoShop 7 book for a PC. I have looked on
    Amazon, but there's over 100 books reviewed :) I read through about
    30 of them and thought that perhaps someone here could narrow down
    what I need. What are some books to avoid, or which ones are good? I'm
    not a beginner user of PhotoShop, but the last version I used was 4.
    When 7 came into the office, I discovered that there were quite a
    **lot** of changes! I basically want to know how to use 7's new

    Christine O, Oct 16, 2003
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    JP Kabala Guest

    Ben Willmore Photoshop 7 Studio or Deke McClelland Photoshop Bible
    if you're not a total novice are both good omnibus-type books, though
    both are a little photo-centric.
    If you want to know WHY something works (and not just HOW to reproduce
    limited specific effects) they're the best there is.

    Stay away from Dummies or Idiots books---they're not BAD but
    if you've used the program extensively before, you'll outgrow the book
    before the check clears. Not enough depth.

    There are other specialized books that are better in re more specific uses
    PS-- Evening, Margulis and Eismann on photos, Haynes, Crumpler or Monroy
    on painting tools, Monroy on photorealistic illustration, nobody gets layer
    styles better than Jack Davis, Roger Pring on Type Effects, and the
    prettiest PS
    book I've seen in a long time is Daniel Giordan's The Art of Photoshop CS.
    JP Kabala, Oct 16, 2003
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    Gene Guest

    My favorite recommendation is Ben Willmore's Photoshop 7 Studio
    Techniques. If you can peruse it at a local bookstore, do so.

    Basically he takes you through the program, explains clearly what each
    tool does, and what the options are. He also covers print production
    and web work.

    I'd recommend it for someone already familiar with Photoshop and their
    own work.

    For me it's the only book if I was only allowed one :)

    Gene, Oct 17, 2003
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    Bill Hilton Guest

    (Christine O)
    Two I would recommend are "Photoshop Bible" by Deke McClelland and "Real World
    Photoshop" by Fraser & Blatner. Haven't seen the Ben Willmore book others are
    recommending so don't know how these compare to it, but the two mentioned go
    into a lot of depth on most features yet are very well written and easy to

    Bill Hilton, Oct 17, 2003
  5. Christine O

    Christine O Guest

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for your suggestions! I'll see what Amazon has to say about
    Photoshop 7 Studio Techniques. I have used PS without knowing exactly
    why and how the different tools work (only that they do :-D) so it
    sounds about right.

    Christine O, Oct 17, 2003
  6. Christine O

    JP Kabala Guest

    Ben's a good teacher and a class act. It's not as ubiquitous
    as Deke McClelland's book, but I really like it.
    If you can't find it elsewhere, look on his website
    at digitalmastery.com

    You should probably visit anyhow, because there are some
    very useful tips and tricks there.
    JP Kabala, Oct 17, 2003
  7. Hi JP,

    << look on his website
    at digitalmastery.com >>

    Thanks for the good tip.



    Conrad Weiler
    Camp Sherman, Oregon
    Conrad Weiler, Oct 18, 2003
  8. Christine O

    amigo Guest

    Excellent point. PS can serve many purposes. Look for a book that suits
    what YOU want to use PS for. Hayes' book also addresses photos very
    amigo, Oct 19, 2003
  9. Christine O

    amigo Guest

    Treat Amazon's reviews (and posts here) with care. The best reviews (and
    posts) provide some context, such as the reviewers' background,
    comparison with similar books, etc.
    amigo, Oct 19, 2003
  10. Christine O

    JP Kabala Guest

    well, FWIW, I'm an instructional designer (that's a fancy term for
    someone who designs training materials and programs), a total
    book junkie and a tough audience when it comes to instructional

    I have a few notable prejudices....
    I don't much like "cookbooks"- things that tell you how to create
    specific effects but don't explain why or how they work. Such books
    have a purpose-- in fact, there's a popular one I've used in the classroom--
    but only when there's an instructor to fill in the blanks...
    Alone, they're the teaching equivalent of "slice and bake" cookies
    On the surface, they produce good, maybe even yummy, things, but don't teach
    you much of anything you can use in any other context.

    In addition, I've actually taken face-to-face classes with each of the folks
    recommended above. They are people who know their stuff and,
    most importantly, know how to teach it to others. Unfortunately,
    some of the most talented artists I know are absolutely lousy
    instructors in person or in print.

    There's another category.... the folks who have more marketing skill
    than artistic sensibility and/or ability to teach. Their books sell well
    but are a little "hollow" Often these authors are not being well served
    by their publishers. Anyone who thinks it makes sense to put a title
    like "How to do Everything With....." on a software book of approx
    300 pages, has never really explored a program as complex as PS
    Other books that fall into this category are the Dummies or Idiots
    guides. They may be OK for newbies who are still
    intimidated by the wealth of stuff PS can do, but an experienced or
    professional user will outgrow them quickly. Since the original poster
    had some expertise with earlier versions of the product, I wouldn't
    put them on the list here/

    The best PS books, other than Ben or Deke's, are often narrowly
    focused books-- why I like Monroy, Pring, and Giordan-- they know
    they can't possibly cover absolutely everything and don't try.

    And, then, there are books that are just plain fun. I got a peek at
    Russell Brown's new book, and it's a real hoot. And Totally Tasteless
    Photoshop made me chuckle, as did the Friends of Ed Making
    Faces in Photoshop. Those last 2 are (I think) Elements books--
    I didn't buy them--but would be a cute birthday gift for someone
    who has a new digital camera and a sense of humor.
    JP Kabala, Oct 20, 2003
  11. Christine O

    Christine O Guest

    Treat Amazon's reviews (and posts here) with care. The best reviews (and
    Very true :) I have read enough Amazon reviews to know the good from
    bad...I like reading comp book reviews because the invariable
    frustrated user posts are quite funny :) If a user has a "see more
    about me" link, I usually click on it too and skim their other
    reviews. It would be nice if I could get an afternoon off and peruse a
    bookstore downtown :) I requested the Willmore book and right now the
    powers that be are deciding between his book and the Deke's PS Bible.

    Thanks again guys!
    Christine O, Oct 21, 2003
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    Gene Guest

    I've had the chance to teach people such as college professors to use
    a web browser. It does take patience to explain and show things to
    people who do not share your background and experience.

    Even more so when you are not paid :)

    Gene, Oct 22, 2003
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