Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by scott, Jul 25, 2003.

  1. scott

    scott Guest

    International Motion Pictures, a film distribution company, is
    accepting submissions of commercially viable feature length films to
    market to buyers in the USA and Internationally. As a producers agent,
    we do NOT charge any up-front fees, only a percentage of sales made.
    We will also consider working with films that are not yet finished, or
    need assistance in finishing. For more general and submission
    information, visit us at:


    Please send kits or completed work to:

    International Motion Pictures
    341 Lafayette Street PMB #21
    New York, NY 10012-2417

    or email:

    scott, Jul 25, 2003
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  2. scott

    A. Film Guy Guest

    International Motion Pictures, a film distribution company,

    Dude Do You NOT Get It?


    You posted a shitload of times, and then I toy with you and you
    solemnly re-post in defense of your stupid multi post.



    Real distributors, even the cheapest, deal with dist reps, studios,
    and some production companies.

    They go to AFM. Ever try that?

    Rarely would they go online and solicit like you are...

    OK your turn

    Re Post AGAIN since you gotta have the last word, idiot
    A. Film Guy, Jul 26, 2003
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  3. scott

    A. Film Guy Guest

    341 Lafayette Street PMB #21

    Oh yeah one more thing.

    You don't have to identify it as a PMB anymore. so go back to calling
    it a suite like you wanted to in the first place.

    MBE ?
    A. Film Guy, Jul 26, 2003
  4. This is a lot of unwarranted negativity.
    While I can't say that I know what's up with this outfit, it seems "A. Film
    Guy" condemns them simply because their presentation is different from
    distributors he has known.

    I feel obligated to contradict "A. Film Guy" on this matter. He has a track
    record of acid negativity on these groups.

    He has a bad attitude.

    If this company distributes one film, and makes a few bucks for some poor
    film maker, that's more than "A. Film Guy" has ever done for these
    discussion groups.
    Robert Morein, Jul 26, 2003
  5. I think I've been in the building.
    It's an incubator for little prod companies.
    A bunch of cubicles, desks, a few larger suites, common services.
    He may have another job there, or may have his own cubicle.
    None of this justifies dumping on the guy.
    He's within walking distance of many contacts, and may very well have good

    I don't see the point of a "slash and burn" attitude.
    This guy doesn't have his hand out for money.
    If he did, or if there were complaints, then it would be another matter.

    This business is populated by people who are bitter at the lack of
    recognition of their talents. The indie film world has changed for the
    worse, and it makes them angry, and their rage boils over into misdirected
    acts of slander.

    This is pointless. Life may try to turn you into a junkyard dog, but you
    don't have to take the suggestion.
    Robert Morein, Jul 26, 2003
  6. scott

    A. Film Guy Guest

    The indie film world has changed for the

    Do you know the deffinition of slander? How about the difference
    between slander and libel?

    Can you not tell when someone (me) is being a sarcastic prick in a

    Are you not also annoyed by seeing the same post 4 times in a row?
    It's little different than the spam in my mailbox.

    If my rage ever boils over, it is misdirected toward the lowly PA's I
    referred to in another thread, because I'm obviously a hateful and
    abusive miscreant.
    have a nice day.
    A. Film Guy, Jul 26, 2003
  7. scott

    A. Film Guy Guest

    While I can't say that I know what's up with this outfit,
    Nor can I, all I pointed out was

    A)NOBODY CARES about quadruple posts
    B)They use a PMB which means they have no startup capital for an

    it seems "A. Film
    No, Bob it's IDENTICAL to shit that is all over L.A. ( Granted they're
    in NY)

    Your right.

    He has a track
    Acid reality, Bob. If you need sunshine and lollipops to color your
    reality, that's you're entitlement.

    In my ever so humble opinion, p
    eople read film newsgroups because they want info...many are newbies
    misinformed or misdirected or whatever. It's hard to not hit the
    keyboard when bullshit, stupidity and recklessness abounds.
    I'M THE FIRST TO POINT THAT OUT, Bob. NO ONE has referred to me
    as a jerk more than myself. Try telling us something NEW. (
    OCcasionally a jerk is a good thing. Telling it as I see it without
    political correctness or sensitivity means you get what I think,
    Apparently you've never read any of my posts inclusive of useful
    information or comment, oh erudite one.

    You post alot yourself. Tell you what. You have the floor, I can use
    my efforts in a better manner than arguing with you .

    Let's review:

    I have OPINIONS:

    I think it's foolish and annoying to multi-post spam.

    I think companies who use PMB's are dreamers with no capital.

    I think a lot of things and have posted a few of them over time, all
    of these things are MY OPINIONS.

    Opinions are like assholes, Bob.

    Anything I've ever posted online is archived for your next lawsuit.
    A. Film Guy, Jul 26, 2003
  8. Usenet discussion groups are not currently recognized by the law as a print
    medium. Hence, according to many legal opinions, the term "slander" applies
    Yes, but I don't necessarily give you my personal license to do that.
    While your posts vary in form, I keep hearing the same drumbeat: how certain
    trends are ruining film and taking money away from professionals who should
    be recognized for their devotion to their profession. Although I agree with
    you on some issues, I don't give you my personal license to bash some
    entrepreneurial newbie into the ground, just because you're all sour about
    You are hateful. I've hung with guys like you. They're bitter. They're
    disappointed. They feel unrewarded for the miracles they do and the zero
    payback for the favors they do, the lack of loyalty by directors who keep
    asking them to work for less and less. On that level, my heart goes out to

    Real life has certain social controls that give people pause before they say
    the things you say here. As you post under a pseudonym, there is no risk to
    your reputation, or your honor, so the social controls are absent. This
    could be very revealing: here you show your real self, with no need or
    incentive to hide behind a pleasant, considerate exterior.
    You bashed this guy, driven by your personal rage.
    Even on Usenet, what goes around, comes around.
    You bash; you get bashed.
    Capiche? I doubt it.
    Robert Morein, Jul 26, 2003
  9. scott

    Chasmo Guest

    If you think "A Film Guy" is a dog kicker, go work for one of the top
    commercial directors, like Joe Pitka. He'd eat you for breakfast. This
    is a tough business and "A. Film Guy" is just giving you small taste
    of what "Life at the top" is like. It is a tough business,and you have
    to be fairly ruthless to succeed at it. Nice guys DO finish last in
    "the biz". MAke a mistake, cause a minute of lost production time, and
    unless you have carved a niche for yourself and are part of the
    "in-crowd" on the set, you will be gone! Probably with a "we have a
    lot of work coming up, we'll be calling you". Don;t hold your breathe!
    There are many nice people in production, but any of us will drop a
    "film school graduate" in a heartbeat. We just can't afford the
    liability. Your crew reflects on you.
    SO if you do get a "break", keep your mouth shut and work hard. Learn
    the "ropes" before opening your mouth.

    IATSE since 1973
    Chasmo, Jul 27, 2003
  10. Charlie,
    I'm not part of your part of the business, so thank God, I don't have to
    subscribe to the ethics you promulgate above. Although one of my buddies met
    Joe Pitka and confirms what you say. He is a man of few words, tough, and a
    genius at lighting.

    The foundation of a good, just society is the willingness of the
    individual to speak up for what is right. I understand that in your case, as
    far as treatment of individuals, you may sacrifice your job if you do so.
    I've seen it happen. One of my crewmembers, who was a PA in NYC, committed
    such transgressions, and was thrown off the ladder he so diligently was
    trying to climb.

    The purpose of opening my mouth in the above instance is not to make "A.
    Film Guy" think twice about his ethics. In fact, as I have said before, he
    may be an entirely different person from the one he portrays on the

    It's a peculiar part of the psychology of Internet discussion groups
    that some individuals try for a dominant presence. Seldom do women do this;
    it appears to be an appetite for playing "alpha male" without risking a
    punch in the mouth. Such people tend to define the group in terms of their
    own purposes. For example, if you are a union hand, you may wish to redefine
    the kids running around with DV cameras as illegitimate. Another attack is
    frequently made against individuals without an established business
    presence, ie., newcomers.

    All of this is part of the psychology of special interest groups. From
    the members of IATSE to the publishers of DV magazines, each individual sees
    the unregulated usenet group as turf to grab for his own viewpoint.

    It does not give me any particular pleasure to attack "A. Film Guy".
    However, I am a great fan of the Epstein Brothers. Jack Warner named them as
    subversive to the House UnAmerican Affairs Committee chaired by Joe
    McCarthy. When asked why, he replied, "They were always for the underdog."

    It does give me pleasure to stick up for an underdog when it appears he
    is the victim of someone whose testosterone levels are slavering for the
    pleasure to kick the shit out of someone.

    I do not aspire to work in your environment. I am not a film school

    Best regards,
    Bob Morein
    Robert Morein, Jul 27, 2003
  11. scott

    A. Film Guy Guest

    Can you not tell when someone (me) is being a sarcastic prick in a
    Oops. Sorry Bob.

    Where do I obtain the form to obtain such license and how much is the

    I dont want your heart, I want the beeotches to empty their wallets
    and pay the due.
    Anyone can figure out who I am , it's easy if they gave a shit. I
    agree with your point but I don't care.
    Oh **** you ;)
    Correct. Not Capiche. Ceviche.
    A. Film Guy, Jul 27, 2003
  12. You don't. This is my way of saying I'm speaking for myself.
    Dues? Dues? We don't need no stinkin dues!
    Thanks for the smiley :).
    Robert Morein, Jul 27, 2003
  13. You get ten points for honesty.
    A very revealing, honest post.
    Most people who do post under the own names are seldom as revealing.
    Many or most of your posts are informative.

    I'm not trying to change you.
    Sometimes, if you (or anybody else) hits an underdog too hard, I try to
    neutralize the effect. This is usually best accomplished by an equally
    inflammatory post, so the pitbull drops the terrier, and goes for me
    Robert Morein, Jul 29, 2003
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    tracym Guest

    Do they generally eat each other for breakfast? How does
    anybody accomplish anything of worth in such an environment?

    Perhaps that's why directors tend to do more than one project
    with people they come to know and like?

    tracym, Jul 29, 2003
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    tracym Guest

    "A Film Guy," I don't know what causes you to need to vent, and it's
    not my business. I'm only commenting because it reminds me - of my

    My sister claims she was raped at the age of 4, ( and our parents
    didn't figure it out). Now that's a horrible thing, if true, but I
    guess it has the same psychological impact either way.

    The problem I have with it is that she feels this justifies her taking
    her anger out on other people. Instead of getting help, ( and yes
    rape victims can have anger problems - I asked) she prefers
    to dish it out on those around her, and even consciously admits it.
    I'm really sorry that happened to her; it's horrible; I wish she could
    have been protected from that, but it doesn't mean I have to
    "take it," (and I recently went through this), and I don't take it.

    I am not suggesting that you have a similar problem, just that there
    are better ways to deal, and it's a choice.

    Sorry all for getting off topic.
    tracym, Jul 29, 2003
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    Gary P Guest

    It's not off topic at all. I'm sorry about what happened to your sister, (as
    long as it's not one of those "false memory syndromes".) But to be
    self-indulgent and harmful to others and then just say "But that's just me,
    that's my integrity" is one of the ways to rationalise being a shit. And
    even take pride in it.

    Contrary to what some have claimed earlier in this thread I've found that
    truly successful people rarely get by on being bastards, even in the film
    biz. Even if one's cynical enough to think it's all about schmoozing, you
    need a degree of EQ to be able even to schmooze with any integrity. Losers
    who tend to feel that the world hasn't given them their due or recognised
    their genius are usually the ones who take their bile out on others. Most
    often they have no genius to recognise, and they ARE getting exactly their

    Gary P, Jul 29, 2003
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    A. Film Guy Guest

    You get ten points for honesty.

    May I redeem those for the license you won't give me?
    Of course not. If you were, you'd have to be a woman.
    Thanks for the heads up. Your diversionary tactic worked until now.

    I have to go find the little bastard and rip him a new one.

    Happy wendsday
    A. Film Guy, Jul 31, 2003
  18. Won't help you.
    We have terminal ABM defenses.
    Airborne laser, sprint interceptors that launch at 500g, the hit-to-kill
    Raytheon, rolling airframe missiles, cherry picker TOWs.
    You're dead meat.
    Robert Morein, Jul 31, 2003
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    A. Film Guy Guest

    Won't help you.
    I suppose you wear BDU's and drive a Pinzgauer to the rifle range on
    Sundays. I'm getting the picture.

    Semper Fi !
    A. Film Guy, Aug 2, 2003
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    krakle Guest

    Welcome to the world of usenet where freedom of speach is enforced the
    most. Most of "A Film Guys" posts just contain the harsh reality. But
    I can see why you don't approve of him frowning upon multi posting
    idiots since you love to make new postings of bull shit continuously
    about the same subject matter. I'm sure you remember...jackass
    krakle, Aug 3, 2003
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