Looking fro tips on best way to farm out DV source for 4 cam edit in Premiere Pro

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Dave Kowalski, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. (I searched the FAQ before posting this)

    I am going to do a 4 camera edit soon and I was wondering about how to
    distribute, if at all, the source files (DV captured via firewire) on my
    setup
    for the most efficiency.

    First let me say that I never have any technical problems with my setup,
    (Dell 2.4Ghz P4, 1 gig RAM, 3 internal IDE drives, 7200rpm 120's)..
    and I usually have 4 streams at once coming from just one drive (not the
    system drive) and there is rarely a stutter.. of course I never have a
    client in the room, until this time..I also have firewire and USB 2 drives
    galore and sometimes captiure to, and read from them as well, still never a
    problem. This is why I have no way of judging which is the best way.....

    This is why I draw upon of the pool of expertise for advice on what's the
    best way to service this project because the client will be there at all
    times and I'd like it to go as smoothly as possible........

    Would it be better for me to split them across drives, or just allocate the
    previews elsewhere, and keep the source from 1 drive?

    Thanks for any and all help.,
    Dave Kowalski
     
    Dave Kowalski, Mar 22, 2005
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  2. Nor specifically sure what you are saying. If you can do 4 streams of full
    DV quality video at once then use whatever you are using to do that, though
    I am not sure what that would you are using or how it works.

    Clarify what you mean by "how to distribute...the DV source files". Are you
    attempting to edit using these 4 streams simultaneously to choose which
    camera at what point for the final edit? So far you have described your
    equipment but not the NLE software you are, or want to use.

    If having the 4 simultaneously on the screen and sync'd for choosing camera
    views on the fly United Media Multicam is a good choice. Works with realtime
    editing cards from Matrox and Canopus or with OHCI-compatible 1394. Check
    out their website: http://www.unitedmediainc.com/products/

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    Digital Video Solutions, Mar 22, 2005
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  3. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
    Yes, I am attempting to edit using these 4 streams simultaneously to choose
    which camera at what point for the final edit.

    I'm using Premiere Pro 1.5, on a Dell P4 2.4 Ghz , with 3 internal IDE
    drives. A rock-solid system that always works spectacularly....

    Since I am operating well within the limits of my system I don't know what
    would be the ideal configuration.
    And, you are correct, I should continue with this scenario since it works,
    but my question was just out of curiosity, since who knows what projects I
    may have to take on that have even more A/V streams to deal with.

    So, If I have as source materials, 4 one-hour dv files, (cameras 1-4),
    what is the ideal way to have the files distributed, for instance, have 2
    on each internal drive, or all 4 on one drive and the render files to
    another?

    Mind you, I never have problems even with all my source on one drive, so
    there's no way for me to determine if there's a best way to keep the
    bandwidth moving..

    Thanks for replying,
    Dave Kowalski
    Bennett Studios
    www.bennettstudios.com
     
    Dave Kowalski, Mar 22, 2005
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    nap Guest

    I keep the previews in the project directory and my media on its own RAID
    (not necessary) array.

    I have had real problems in XP SP2 with some firewire drives that are larger
    than 250GB. Mostnotably the Lacie 500GB drive.It was a nightmare until I
    dropped it in favor of a SATA array in the PC itself. Haven;t had a problem
    yet. But I do try to minimize the amount of preview or render stuff that
    goes on the media drives and keep those with the project on a seperate 120GB
    drive. I also keep titles, edits, animation and everything else but the
    actual captured media in the project area
     
    nap, Mar 22, 2005
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  5. Thanks, I think I'll stay with the IDE drives, as they seem the most robust.
    I actually have had good results with USB 2 (had to do it out of space
    considerations once) and it performed much better than firewire....
     
    Dave Kowalski, Mar 22, 2005
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    C.J.Patten Guest

    I can't take credit for this - I believe someone here posted this link
    originally (who's gonna take credit for it? :)
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

    In short, upgrading to Windows XP Service Pack 2 may lower your Firewire
    throughput from the stock 400MB/sec to 100MB/sec.
    Fix it with the downloadable Microsoft patch at the linked page above.

    The ONLY reason I can imagine this patch was needed: someone on the SP2
    development team dropped the ball.
    Thankfully, they've picked it up again. :)

    Also note: a single "slow" firewire device may reduce the throughput of all
    other devices on the bus.
    None of that may have had anything to do with your firewire woes - I
    understand LaCie has a poor reputation these days - but it's worth a shot.

    C.
     
    C.J.Patten, Mar 22, 2005
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  7. I'm still unclear just how you are playing back 4 streams simultaneously
    using Pro 1.5?
     
    Digital Video Solutions, Mar 22, 2005
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    Mike Kujbida Guest

    Mike Kujbida, Mar 23, 2005
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    nap Guest

    Yes.. I saw that but it only sets 1394b ports to S100 (Firewire800)
     
    nap, Mar 23, 2005
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