Looking to replace EOS 650 - advice please!

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by 01steven, Jan 26, 2007.

  1. 01steven

    01steven Guest

    Hi- first time poster on this forum. Hope someone out there can help
    me.

    Am in the UK so I appreciate the model numbers in Europe are not the
    same as in the US.
    I have had an EOS 650 for about 20 years and it's been fantastic.
    I've got a digital camera too but still like to shoot b/w and slide
    film so use my EOS 650 a lot.
    It's now developed a fault but I can see that I could buy a replacement
    body for about £30 ($56) or so on eBay.
    Before I do this, I wanted to see if there were any other EOS 35mm SLR
    bodies that I should consider which I could pick up at a very good
    price on eBay or elsewhere.
    I have a number of lenses and a flashgun so want to stick with another
    EOS.

    I can see you can pick up an EOS 1 body for about £100 ($188) on eBay.
    I've seen EOS 5 bodies (I think this was called A2/A2E in US) going for
    about £30-40 ($55-$75).
    EOS 50 (US name - EOS Elan II/IIe I believe) at about £30 ($56).
    And EOS 30 (US name - EOS Elan 7/7e I believe) at about £70 ($131).

    I really like the weight in my EOS 650 - feels like a proper camera! I
    know some of the later EOS 35mm SLRs were much lighter and not sure I
    like that whole silver design.
    Also from what I can understand the EOS 650, although one of the first
    EOS SLRs was pretty well spec'd and I know took great shots. So I'm
    really looking for something which will take as good or better images
    and with the same or more features.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Regards
    Steven
     
    01steven, Jan 26, 2007
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  2. Hi:
    The EOS 650 was ahead of it's time back when it came out in the
    mid-80's. I had one for years, and it served me well. But compared to
    Canon's newer and more upgraded EOS versions the 650 is a bit slow. My
    brother has the later version, and I can't think of the model number,
    but it's focusing system was far more superior and it had a lot more
    options. Here is a link to some of the EOS film and digital
    cameras.
    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=111

    If I can get a hold of my brother, I'll find out what EOS model he
    owns, but right now he's in sunny Florida golfing.
    Helen
     
    helensilverburg, Jan 26, 2007
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  3. I found this website which is more informative:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS

    It gives a list of all the EOS cameras from the beginning. It has the
    American version and the European version tables written clearly for
    you. Just scroll down.
    If I had to recommend a film camera, it would most definitely be the
    EOS 1V. That is one sweet baby.
    Good Luck!
    Helen
     
    helensilverburg, Jan 26, 2007
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  4. 01steven

    Tony Polson Guest


    The EOS 1V is a fine camera, but it is very large and heavy compared
    to the EOS 650. A better choice might be the EOS 3, which has almost
    all the features and performance of the EOS 1V but is lighter and much
    more compact.

    I carry an EOS 3 body as backup to my EOS 5D bodies. I occasionally
    use it when I need to shoot film and need a longer lens than my Leica
    M outfit provides, or to shoot macro, which is time consuming and
    difficult with a Leica. I have had no problem with my 5D bodies, so
    the EOS 3 backup has never been needed.
     
    Tony Polson, Jan 26, 2007
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  5. 01steven

    Skip Guest

    Hi- first time poster on this forum. Hope someone out there can help
    me.

    Am in the UK so I appreciate the model numbers in Europe are not the
    same as in the US.
    I have had an EOS 650 for about 20 years and it's been fantastic.
    I've got a digital camera too but still like to shoot b/w and slide
    film so use my EOS 650 a lot.
    It's now developed a fault but I can see that I could buy a replacement
    body for about £30 ($56) or so on eBay.
    Before I do this, I wanted to see if there were any other EOS 35mm SLR
    bodies that I should consider which I could pick up at a very good
    price on eBay or elsewhere.
    I have a number of lenses and a flashgun so want to stick with another
    EOS.

    I can see you can pick up an EOS 1 body for about £100 ($188) on eBay.
    I've seen EOS 5 bodies (I think this was called A2/A2E in US) going for
    about £30-40 ($55-$75).
    EOS 50 (US name - EOS Elan II/IIe I believe) at about £30 ($56).
    And EOS 30 (US name - EOS Elan 7/7e I believe) at about £70 ($131).

    I really like the weight in my EOS 650 - feels like a proper camera! I
    know some of the later EOS 35mm SLRs were much lighter and not sure I
    like that whole silver design.
    Also from what I can understand the EOS 650, although one of the first
    EOS SLRs was pretty well spec'd and I know took great shots. So I'm
    really looking for something which will take as good or better images
    and with the same or more features.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Regards
    Steven

    The only caveat I can offer for any of the cameras on your list is that the
    EOS 5 had a problem with the command dial breaking, leaving the dial
    spinning freely, so you can't select a mode. The repair, here in the
    states, ran about $100, and was permanent. If you can't ascertain that such
    a repair had been affected on a certain camera, I'd avoid it. By the way,
    mine broke after several years, but I'd moved to more digital shooting, and
    never repaired it. Others had theirs break in a matter of months. So it's
    not really something to take your chances on, in my opinion.
    EOS bodies after the EOS 1 had more than one focus point, something that I
    found critical. The 5 and 1n had 5 focus points in a row, the Elan/50 had
    3, the 30, 7. The 5 and 1 series had spot metering, another critical point
    for me, but I don't know what is critical for you.
    The only silver bodies were the Elan II and the Rebel series (50 and 500, et
    al) the others were all black. The heft of the 1 series may be a little
    more than the 650, the 5 is pretty comparable, if I recall. I have a 5 and
    1n, my wife's cousin had a 650, but I didn't handle it very much.
     
    Skip, Jan 26, 2007
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  6. 01steven

    Skip Guest

    With all due respect to Helen, here's the site I've found most useful when
    researching older Canon cameras and lenses:
    http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/index.html


    --
    Skip Middleton
    www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
    www.pbase.com/skipm



    I found this website which is more informative:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS

    It gives a list of all the EOS cameras from the beginning. It has the
    American version and the European version tables written clearly for
    you. Just scroll down.
    If I had to recommend a film camera, it would most definitely be the
    EOS 1V. That is one sweet baby.
    Good Luck!
    Helen
     
    Skip, Jan 26, 2007
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  7. Yes I agree. The EOS 1V is quite heavy. This should be taken into
    consideration if it is a problem for you.
    The EOS 3 is another fine choice. What it does not have that the 1V
    has is a finder eye-piece shutter (for macro),
    it is even better sealed against dirt/water intrustion, you
    don't have to worry about inconsistent eye-control-focus (ECF), faster
    frame rates and it won't fog the very bottom of IR film frames. I'm
    not sure, but the EOS 3 would probably be less expensive than the
    professional 1V.
    Helen
     
    helensilverburg, Jan 26, 2007
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