Lower priced Nikon Digital SLR?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Cary D., Oct 3, 2003.

  1. Cary D.

    Cary D. Guest

    Anyone know if Nikon is planning on releasing a lower priced Digital SLR
    similar to the Canon Rebel? If not, what's the likelihood of the D100
    dropping in price over the next year? I have several nice Nikon lenses, I'm
    just not ready to spend $1600 to $2000 for a camera body. Thanks for any
    info you have.
     
    Cary D., Oct 3, 2003
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    ajacobs2 Guest

    Local dealer has the D100 kits at $1499.00
     
    ajacobs2, Oct 3, 2003
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    Steve James Guest

    The big question is when? If I were to guess I'd say Canon got their
    sub-$1000 DSLR to market a year before their competitors were expecting.
    Nikon is in a bind because not only are they behind, but they have
    digital point and shoots (some pretty new) that are close in price to
    the Digital Canon Rebel.
     
    Steve James, Oct 3, 2003
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  4. Cary D.

    George Guest

    I think whether Nikon likes it or not the price of the D100 will be dropping
    over the next year. Both Canon and normal progress have assured that. Even
    though I have over 20 Nikon lenses and desperately want a good digital SLR,
    the D100 isn't even mildly enticing to me. Try again Nikon, but this time
    remember:
    1) full frame sensor
    2) metering WORKS with any AI-onward lens
    3) camera has PC sync socket for studio work
    4) IEEE 802.11b and Firewire image transfer
    5) at least 6M pixel
    6) priced at $1500 or so
    7) ISO equivalent range of at least 100-1000

    If Nikon gave people what they want then Nikon wouldn't have to worry about
    Canon, Kodak or the economy. But I refuse to buy this new Chinese G-series
    crap at inflated prices and scrap my really nice lenses (especially my 8mm
    f/2.8).
     
    George, Oct 3, 2003
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  5. Cary D.

    George Guest

    As big of a Nikon fan as I've been these last 30 years, I think you're right
    in that Canon caught Nikon not napping but in a very sound sleep. IF Nikon
    continues to try to force me to replace all my existing lenses, I
    will...with Canon lenses and Canon bodies and never look back.
     
    George, Oct 3, 2003
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    Gavin Cato Guest

    whoopee for you


     
    Gavin Cato, Oct 3, 2003
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  7. Cary D.

    Gavin Cato Guest

    1) full frame sensor

    Right. If you'd like to buy a full frame DSLR you are welcome to go and buy
    the Canon 1Ds - oh whats that, you can't afford it? Well guess what, thats
    why the D100 is priced as it is, and not at $7500 USD.

    other garbage deleted.
    G lenses are here to stay, and it's not chinese crap. My 70-200/2.8
    certainly ain't chinese junk. You just want to live in the past.

    Gav
     
    Gavin Cato, Oct 3, 2003
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  8. Cary D.

    Rafe B. Guest


    I hear ya.

    I'm not "super" invested in Nikon -- just a couple of old SLR
    bodies (FE, 8008) and a handful of mid-range lenses. But I love
    my faithful FE and considered myself a loyal Nikon sorta guy.

    Anyway, the story I've heard (and which I find easy to believe)
    is that Canon makes chips, while Nikon doesn't. So Canon has
    a big edge on Nikon on the essential technology for digicams.

    Whatever. Maybe Nikon will catch up, somehow. And if not,
    too bad. I'm enjoying the heck out of my 10D and I gotta tell
    you -- that 17-40 L lens is probably sharper than anything in
    my Nikon kit.


    rafe b.
    http://www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    Rafe B., Oct 3, 2003
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  9. Cary D.

    Gavin Cato Guest

    For the past few years that has been true, i.e. the CCD in the D100 is a
    Sony chip.

    However the D2h uses a inhouse, Nikon designed chip and so it's likely it's
    technology will be used for the new nikon cameras as they come out.
    It probably is. Likewise if you bought some new nikon lenses, like the
    17-35/2.8 it'd be better than the 17-40. Heck, even Canon's 16-35 L isn't in
    the same class as Nikon's 17-35.
     
    Gavin Cato, Oct 3, 2003
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  10. It sounded like a feasible camera that might show up on the market in a year
    or two, right up until you declared the $1500 price point. You might as well
    go out an buy your Rebel right now. Your little dream ain't gonna happen.

    HMc
     
    Howard McCollister, Oct 3, 2003
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    Trevor S Guest

    ..11g please



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    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
    -Albert Einstein
     
    Trevor S, Oct 3, 2003
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    Mike Graham Guest

    What do you mean by forcing you to replace all of your existing lenses?
    Are they Pentax or something?

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    Lousy photographer with a really nice camera - Olympus C3020Zoom.
    When that's broken I can use my Nikon D100 :cool:
    <http://www.metalmangler.com/photos/photos.htm>
    <http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=766040>
     
    Mike Graham, Oct 3, 2003
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  13. For some reason, the D100 will not meter at all with (most) non-AF lenses.
    Sounds like a silly marketing decision. You don't need any extra hardware
    for stop-down metering. It doesn't really matter to me. I can wait until
    (2nd hand) D1X cameras become affordable.
     
    Philip Homburg, Oct 3, 2003
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  14. Cary D.

    Gavin Cato Guest

    Well, at least the lenses will fit, unlike old canon lenses
     
    Gavin Cato, Oct 3, 2003
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  15. Cary D.

    Mike Graham Guest

    Exactly. Pre-1987 lenses won't work on a new Canon *at* *all*. Pre-1987
    can be a bit confusing with Nikon, but they work.

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    Mike Graham | Metalworker, rustic, part-time zealot.
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    <http://www.metalmangler.com>| Caledon, Ontario, Canada

    Lousy photographer with a really nice camera - Olympus C3020Zoom.
    When that's broken I can use my Nikon D100 :cool:
    <http://www.metalmangler.com/photos/photos.htm>
    <http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=766040>
     
    Mike Graham, Oct 3, 2003
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    George Guest

    I believe you are correct, but Nikon makes the EQUIPMENT (wafer steppers,
    etc.) to make chips while Canon doesn't...you'd think someone there
    collecting a big paycheck would put this to their advantage.
     
    George, Oct 4, 2003
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  17. Cary D.

    George Guest

    There is a big difference between having a silicon foundry and just doing
    design work... And the D2H's resolution isn't going to excite anyone, only
    its speed and that usually only means a wider data path which hardly
    qualifies as "design".
     
    George, Oct 4, 2003
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  18. Cary D.

    George Guest

    I mean by multiplying my existing (carefully chosen) Nikon lenses by 1.6 AND
    not allowing (design choice on their part...I cannot think of any technical
    reason) any of my AI/AIS lenses to meter on their dSLR bodies. I don't mind
    hand-held meters in the studio (I actually prefer them) but wouldn't want
    additional stuff to lug around on location or for pleasure shots. Some of
    the lenses I have that I REALLY want to keep and continue using simply do
    NOT exist for ANY dSLR and I haven't even heard of them in the planning
    stages (plus, why would I want to lose thousands of dollars just to
    duplicate what I already own?)...a good example is my Nikon 8mm f/2.8
    fisheye, yeah a 10mm rectangular fisheye is planned but that replaces the
    rectangular image 16mm film fisheye lens and not the 8mm circular fisheye.
    The part about AI/AIS lenses not metering is merely a marketing decision
    foisted on the design department to try to sell people all new lenses.
     
    George, Oct 4, 2003
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  19. Cary D.

    Rafe B. Guest


    Because, compared to the 1Ds, it just doesn't stand up.

    Pixel count isn't everything.

    Posted images from the 14n aren't impressive. Images
    from the 1Ds are. The 14n is noisy, particularly above
    100 ISO, and has other image quality issues, as far as
    I can tell.

    By the way, I own a good deal of Nikon gear, so don't
    think I'm bashing Nikon. It's just that they've got some
    catching up to do in the digicam market.


    rafe b.
    http://www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    Rafe B., Oct 4, 2003
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  20. Cary D.

    Gavin Cato Guest

    Actually the resolution is exciting people - the people for whom the camera
    is intended. Not the jockeys in this newsgroup who think megapixels are
    everything.
     
    Gavin Cato, Oct 4, 2003
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