Lying in wait.. for James Bond fans only?

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Mark Thomas, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    Maybe Alexander's friends :)

    Mr.T, Aug 2, 2008
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  2. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest


    No real bike rider would want a Harley, it is brand, not a bike. Harleys
    are to real bikes what a Kodak P&S is to a full frame DLSR.

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
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  3. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
  4. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    Not at all, even for my own personal use I'm more fussy than that photo!
    And I certainly wouldn't bother posting rejects anywhere on-line.
    But each to their own, as I already said.
    For the LAST time, IF YOU'RE HAPPY, FINE by me.
    However if you just prefer to argue to protect your precious ego, then your
    photo's will never improve.
    (and I won't care about that either)

    Mr.T, Aug 2, 2008
  5. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    You are supposed to excuse yourself when you break wind in public. I don't
    see an apology.

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
  6. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    Well I think it's ok, so I guess that means you're calling me a twit.

    Want to try that in person?

    I drink at the Southport Yacht Club every Wednesday and Friday, just ask
    the lass at reception or any of the bar staff to point out the guy who
    rides the Vincent and they'll oblige.

    I won't hold my breath.

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
  7. Mark Thomas

    Jeff R. Guest

    Another possessive plural user!

    A sock, or just a shared delusion?
    Jeff R., Aug 2, 2008
  8. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    (so I guess that is the only sort of images he has..)
    (why the superior tone then? If his images *are* superior, why not help
    us low-lives, as we aspire to such greatness?)
    (why wasn't the last time he posted, the 'last time'?)
    (oh dear, another one who can't handle an apostrophe...)

    (but he clearly did)
    (he keeps coming back, but never with a photo (let alone a relevant one)
    or a useful comment...)

    Oh, did I think all that out loud?
    Mark Thomas, Aug 2, 2008
  9. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    When you worked in "the newspaper game". Hmmm.

    I work in print media, have been a journalist for the ABC, then Fairfax,
    then News Ltd., for most of my working life. I have yet to hear a
    journalist refer to "the newspaper game". They refer to it as many things,
    some unprintable, but never that.

    Elaborate, tell us who you worked for and when.

    I won't hold my breath waiting for that response either, blue doesn't suit me.

    Weekly Times? That's News Ltd., when was that?
    You were a cadet with the Weekly Times and they sent you to cover the
    biggest entertainment event of the decade? Your credibility has shriveled
    up and fallen through a crack in the floor. (It's a parquet floor BTW.)

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
  10. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    In reality, it doesn't look too bad in that colour, but yes, that is
    partly why I rendered it in b&w so as to look a little more like the
    real (old) thing.
    Mark Thomas, Aug 2, 2008
  11. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    Thanks, Black.

    I'm glad you thought it was ok, and it is good to see it provoked some

    Perhaps Mr T, who I imagine won't take up your kind offer, might like to
    post some images of his. On an unrelated topic to avoid any
    embarrassment, of course! A person of such talent obviously has much
    knowledge to share...

    Up for it, Mr T?
    Mark Thomas, Aug 2, 2008
  12. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    Yeah just like a typical thug. You think it's alright for YOU to call
    someone a twit or a turd, but violent if they use the same words.
    Since I don't even live in the same state, it's a good idea not to hold your
    breathe, but please feel free to do so in any case!

    Mr.T, Aug 2, 2008
  13. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    "..hold your breathe.."? Sigh..

    Hey, Mr T, can you quote the bit up there that suggests violence?

    It is common knowledge that there are those who will say whatever they
    like behind the cover of a fake computer name, but wouldn't dare say the
    same in person. That would appear to be you.

    Further, to assume violent intent behind a simple offer to have a drink
    and see if you are brave enough to call someone a twit in person? -
    well, that says even more about you...

    A complete picture has emerged!
    Mark Thomas, Aug 2, 2008
  14. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    Not at all. I will call you a twit or a turd or more colourfully, a small
    puddle of excrement because you deserve it.

    You were being derogatory and abusive without justification, you were also
    being totally unrealistic in your implied assertion that all photos
    presented for comment must be technically perfect. Photography isn't about
    technical perfection, it is about communication, about creating an
    impression with the subject of the photo, not with the photo itself.

    You were also accusing anyone who disagrees with your rather limited world
    view and petty agenda, of being a twit. I like the photo, and my liking the
    photo does not give you the right to call me names, whereas your initial
    abuse is fair reason for me to take offence and respond in the manner that
    you initiated. My question still stands, are you prepared to stand in front
    of someone and spout off in that manner? I really doubt it as you would
    spend much of your day trying to climb back onto your feet.

    As for violence, that is unlikely to happen because if you were man enough
    to handle the results of your small minded and ill considered comments, you
    wouldn't need to be so petty in order to impress yourself. You certainly
    don't impress anyone else. Are you gay? You express yourself in that catty
    and bitchy way that only some bitter women and gay men seem to manage.

    BlackShadow, Aug 2, 2008
  15. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    As do you obviously, so where is your problem?
    You have a reference for this twaddle? Only opinions matching yours are
    allowed on YOUR newsgroups I suppose.

    Real photographers achieve both, knowing they are not mutually exclusive.

    What a load of unmitigated garbage. You do seem to have a very fragile ego
    but no regard for any one else.
    And if you can't take others comments why on earth post pictures in the
    first place?
    Just looking for pats on the back, for that fragile ego I suppose.

    Mr.T, Aug 3, 2008
  16. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    So that means *you* have a countering reference saying is only
    for technically perfect photos. I haven't seen that one in the FAQ...

    Or is that seriously your opinion?
    Gee, I thought all opinions are allowed, as are contrary views, as are
    criticisms of techniques that are not applicable or sensible. Eg the
    idea of using a powerful flash to light a front-on view of a car in
    dappled light, or using a diffuser when specular highlights are
    desired.. It seems that if anyone offers an alternative view to yours
    (and it seems you are somewhat in the minority here, if you read all the
    comments..), *you* are the one to get upset. We're still waiting for
    the details of the techniques you refer to, in a real life similar
    example. (But not holding our 'breathes'.)
    Always? You're clearly a black or white guy. And of course that
    explains why you don't have the guts to post an image, because it will
    have to come with no excuses now...!

    Still not up for that challenge, I'm guessing.
    But that's because we are not worthy, of course..! (grin)
    So why, after all that, don't *you* post images or answer questions with
    examples and specifics??
    Mark Thomas, Aug 3, 2008
  17. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    Why would I, since I never said it? Argue with whoever you think did
    But not mine for some reason, why is that?
    I'm not upset at all, but I do get amused at people threatening violence
    because someone dislikes the photo they posted for comment!

    Since I am not interested in your opinion, why would I waste my time?
    It's the people who do post their photo's for comment, then get upset if
    they get any negative comments that are stupid IMO.

    So you can hold your breathe forever waiting for me to worry about YOUR
    opinion of my photo's.
    If you're not interested in mine, simply ignore them, as I will do you in

    Mr.T, Aug 3, 2008
  18. Mark Thomas

    Mark Thomas Guest

    Superb snipping!!

    You are (deliberately) missing the point. You expressed a view that was
    challenged, and contrary information about your technique 'suggestions'
    were posted (not just by one person) along with a request for more
    details and examples. You have not responded in any meaningful way.
    You raised the 'violent' thing.
    Several folk expressed the same view, so that then makes you a trolling
    pretentious twat who is disinterested in anything except making himself
    out as a photo god without a shred of evidence, and in fact evidence to
    the exact contrary shows that you don't understand very basic techniques...

    They don't own anything.
    Good-oh. Consider it done. But if you post similar misinformation
    elsewhere, I'll be there.

    And don't be too embarrassed by your failure to post anything relevant
    to back up those assertions about powerful flash guns, etc, or.. (gasp)
    an image of any kind.. Nobody noticed.
    Mark Thomas, Aug 3, 2008
  19. Mark Thomas

    Mr.T Guest

    I suggest you try google groups if you can't keep up with who said what.
    You may notice I have NEVER raised violence at any time.
    Black Shadow did.
    As is your right to continue to post YOUR unsupported mis-information.
    And others to ignore it.

    Mr.T, Aug 3, 2008
  20. Mark Thomas

    BlackShadow Guest

    Yes, and real easter Bunnies live at the bottom of your garden. Bunnies
    aren't particularly exclusive either.

    I have never met a photographer who has declared that a photograph that
    s/he has taken is perfect, cannot be improved. Obviously have. Were you
    awake at the time?
    Yes, well in my defence I have found mitigating garbage to be a waste of
    time, plus it gets your hands all funky. I just throw it out the same way
    it comes in.
    I have a bulletproof ego, one difference between us is that I don't need to
    convince anyone who doesn't know me of that.
    Hmmm. Wake up Maud. I have NEVER posted a pic or a link to a pic on this
    group. I post on moderated groups only. It keeps the noise (look in a
    mirror for an example of noise) down.
    I don't want physical contact from people like you - I wouldn't risk it, I
    haven't had my shots for a few years, and I can still remember those
    training films showing the nasty things that are usually associated with
    bits of feminine anatomy like yourself.

    By the way, I make no claims to perfection, just to an appreciation of

    I would really love to see something from you something perfect in every
    way. You are a *real* photographer I assume. I mean, after all your snide
    comments regarding other photographers you could scarcely be anything else
    - could you?

    Or could you?

    By the way, I'll be in Manly staying at the South Steyne for a few days the
    week after next. Want to try a personal approach then? That shouldn't be
    too far for you to travel. You can bring your Mummy if you like.

    BlackShadow, Aug 3, 2008
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