Mac vs. PC Question (newbie)

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by A.K, Dec 14, 2003.

  1. A.K

    A.K Guest

    Hi All,

    I've been told by numerous people that if I'm interested in Video Editing
    and taking my Photoshop skills to the next level that I should purchase a
    Mac.
    However when I ask "WHY" I'm not really given an answer other than
    "it's just better" or "Final Cut Pro can only be used on a Mac".
    Despite the fact the actual answers might be lengthy I would
    greatly appreciate any help. My PC mentor insists that purchasing a Mac
    for video editing and Photoshop is completely unnecessary.
    I would like to be able to tell him why it is necessary.

    I'm in the midst of getting a studio job in LA and everyone in production
    uses a Mac. I think that I should get one too. I just want to know
    what the major differences are between a Mac and a PC, and why I should
    purchase a Mac.

    Much thanks in advance,
    Adam
     
    A.K, Dec 14, 2003
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    Clive Guest

    Just a personal opinion but having worked on Mac's and always used a PC at
    home the reason some people state that the Mac is better is historical. The
    Mac was the only machine that you could run Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark
    Express and Freehand on then they wrote these programs for the PC. At first
    they were not brilliant because the earlier PC's were slow and not always
    stable but now with DDR memory, high speed processors and OS like XP they
    are streets better than a MAC. In fact I now some Graphics Designers who
    were Mac mad who have now changed to PC's.

    Clive
     
    Clive, Dec 14, 2003
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Adam,

    If you were working alone, I'd recommend you go straight to the PC for cost
    reasons alone. But you're not.

    Definitely get what the others are using - in this case it looks like
    Macintosh - you'll save a bunch of headaches, starting with the first file
    someone emails you. Like BOOM - here's an EDL, take a look and we can talk
    after lunch. Well, duh, if you are the only PC you're going to be up a
    creek.

    As for the comparison of the two machines - PC's are much less expensive in
    every way, and Macs - the newest models anyway - cost more but have more
    glitz. Buy as good a system as your budget will allow, and especially get
    tons of memory. Find out whether they are on OSX or still on OS9, and
    follow their lead in that area as well.

    There is also a religious fervor on the part of the Mac folks - and I speak
    as someone who worked with them for years and still works with them. Since
    you need to work with them, join them, or at least show a measure of
    solidarity with them. Not that you'll have much choice in the matter :)

    Macintosh people have the best and glitziest equipment, the highest software
    standards - particularly but not limited to an excellent user interface, and
    a hypnotically charismatic leader in Steve Jobs. In spite of this, Mac
    zealots are in the position of trying to peddle gold in a world that is in
    love with iron.

    Thats about the best I can say - be ready to join a devoted group of people
    who are under siege, and try to get past this and get your work done.

    Take care.
     
    Mike Russell, Dec 14, 2003
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    Frogiswrong Guest

    DRIVEL!



    These people wont be able to back up this statement with ANYTHING.
    Buy a Falcon or a Commodore neither is better both are different.
    Not with some decent software.
    You fucking Idiot.

    Mike Russell... You are a... Mac user by the sound of things.
     
    Frogiswrong, Dec 14, 2003
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    Mike Russell Guest

    It's not often that someone's nick contains the response to their post.
    Frog, rivetting as always, is "wrong" on all counts.

    This time anyway. :)

    Take care
     
    Mike Russell, Dec 14, 2003
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    A.K Guest

    "> Definitely get what the others are using - in this case it looks like

    Ya know what Mike, I NEVER thought of that and I must say an
    excellent point. Getting a new production job and being out of the loop the
    1st day are what bad dreams are made of. And it's not as if I'm
    gonna throw my PC away. I'll have both I guess.
    That one paragraph you wrote just cured a 2-week headache.
    thank you!!!!


    And I must apologize for using a Photoshop newsgroup to post
    this question but I couldn't really find a Mac group with more than
    200 people. And by all means my intentions aren't to start a flame war.

    Thanks
    adam
     
    A.K, Dec 14, 2003
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    Si Guest

    Frog, why when others can formulate articulate, intelligent responses to a
    valid question, do you have to be offensive, agressive and rude?

    For the original poster, my own two penneth, as someone who uses a PC at
    home (and has owned and still currently uses a Mac at work) is to recommend
    the Mac. Simply, you'll need to be up an running the first day...

    Si.
     
    Si, Dec 14, 2003
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    Jerry McG Guest

    AK, I fear all you will have done here is start a "Mac vs. PC" flame war.
    I'll try & give you my experience with both without bias.

    I'm a PC user and heard the same thing many times, that Apples Colorsync was
    better than Microsoft's ICM, etc. blah, blah... Despite the fact I was
    perfectly happy with the results I was getting from Photoshop and my Epson
    printers on a PC, I looked into Macs out of curiosity last year and bought a
    1ghz G4 Mac.

    After months of frustration and aggravation with Apple's OSX I finally
    threw up my hands and sold the thing. First, Photoshop works IDENTICALLY on
    both platforms, there is no advantage one way or the other. Second, if you
    do direct printing to an Epson printer, the Apple OSX print drivers are a
    disaster. I ended up having to boot into OS9 to do any reliable printing.
    Thankfully, OS9 came with my Mac but no longer does. NEVER, despite all the
    complaints about Wintel being problematic, have I experienced the problems I
    encountered with Apple. In the end I was very disappointed, because many of
    the features of the Mac are quite good. I simply was not going to risk my
    business to a platform switch from which I could find no actual advantage,
    and a MUCH higher cost.

    Apple has a large market share in the graphics community, based upon a
    leadership position they were in back in the late '80's & early '90s.
    However, any advantage they had has long since been lost and now it's simply
    a matter of the system having become a norm in most agencies. I predict over
    time Apple will die a slow death, there just isn;t any advantage to them at
    all.



    news:[email protected]
     
    Jerry McG, Dec 14, 2003
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    Steve Moody Guest

    You present your argument with such class, intelligence, and
    maturity that I doubt that anyone can support Apple Company even
    continuing to be in business anymore.
     
    Steve Moody, Dec 14, 2003
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    edjh Guest

    From what I have heard (and I am not a video guy) Final Cut Pro is
    simply the best for video editing, and since it's only available for
    Mac, you would do well to get a Mac.

    I use both Mac and Windows and I think it's good to have both if you can
    swing it, or at least know how to use both. The differences these days
    are not extreme.
     
    edjh, Dec 14, 2003
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    Stephan Guest

    That's because only about 600 people use Macs.
    ;-)

    Stephan
     
    Stephan, Dec 14, 2003
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    squarefoot Guest

    frog IS wrong
     
    squarefoot, Dec 14, 2003
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    Steve Moody Guest

    You left out some zeros.
     
    Steve Moody, Dec 14, 2003
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    Hecate Guest

    There isn't any good logical reason other than if it's what the people
    you work for require. If it is, then you need one. However, you'll pay
    more and get a no better machine than if you'd bought a PC. But if
    it's what you need...

    Incidentally, don't believe the propaganda about it's better at this
    or that. I've used both and had to support both and there's no longer
    a difference. In fact, in the UK, Apple were running an ad for the new
    G5 which said that:"the new Apple G5 is the world's fastest desktop
    computer." Our Advertising Standards Authority made them withdraw the
    ad when they couldn't prove it. Just like all the other things that
    are supposedly "better" on a Mac.
     
    Hecate, Dec 15, 2003
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    A.K Guest

    Thanks Jerry, but like I said my intentions were not to start a flame war.
    I understand the passions of both PC and Mac users.
    Just a couple more questions, perhaps really dumb questions......
    Do "pop-ups" and viruses inundate Macs the same way as PC's?
    And why do many people say Macs are easier to use than PC's?
    Other than dabbling in my PC's registry I've been, for the most part,
    been able to naviagte through my machine without much effort at all.
    How much "easier" can a Mac be? From your post it sounds like your
    Mac was a pain. If you owned a G5 do you believe you would have had
    the same troubles as your G4?

    Thanks
    adam
     
    A.K, Dec 15, 2003
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    Frogiswrong Guest

    You took me out of context. thats somthing that i have never done or will
    never do.
    i debated your poits of view. You cut the hell out of my response to show it
    as somthing that it wasnt.

    Thanks alot.
     
    Frogiswrong, Dec 15, 2003
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    Frogiswrong Guest

    well crafted.


     
    Frogiswrong, Dec 15, 2003
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Actually I was trying to make you look better by quoting fewer of your
    unsubstantiated,and incorrect one line contradicitions and obscenities.

    You appear determined to ammend that situation, and from what I can see, you
    are succeeding admirably.
     
    Mike Russell, Dec 15, 2003
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    Stephan Guest

    Sorry, let me fix that: it's because 600 zeros use the Mac.
    ;-)

    Stephan


    Hey, just goofing, Macs are as bad as any other machines.
     
    Stephan, Dec 15, 2003
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    Liam Toh Guest

    That's because only about 600 people use Macs.
    LOL
     
    Liam Toh, Dec 15, 2003
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